Re: [Debconf-team] Day Trip - please comment
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> writes:
> Le lundi, 22 juillet 2013 12.12:11, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit :
>> Hi
>>
>> Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> writes:
>> > Le samedi, 20 juillet 2013 14.38:13, Christian PERRIER a écrit :
>> >> Quoting Raphaël Walther (raphael.walther@gmail.com):
>> >> > I have check, there is one communal shower for 3 persons at
>> >> > Soliat. Of course you could go to the lake later when we are in
>> >> > Neuchâtel. For that day, my hiking proposal is that people will
>> >> > walk from Le Camp to Soliat. So everyone should be together for
>> >> > apéro (and picnic lunch).
>> >>
>> >> Checking on the map : is what you call "Soliat", the "Ferme du
>> >> Soliat", altitude 1382m, at the end of an unpaved road, close to
>> >> the top of the Creux du Van cliffs, and close to the "Soliat"
>> >> moutain top
>> >> (alt. 1463)?
>> >
>> > Exactly. Swiss coordinates CH1903+: 2544654 198632, aka [0].
>> >
>> > As for the itinerary, I suggest to check wanderland.ch, which has
>> > all hiking paths for Switzerland, which are in turn very-well
>> > indicated on- site. I've traced one possible itinerary for you,
>> > [1]. It counts 4h51 for normal hikers, 940m of positive altitude
>> > diff and 17km flat. Add pauses to that and it makes a quite
>> > serious walk (but one I'd enjoy
>> >
>> > :-).
>>
>> In my opinion this hike is too much for the "regular DebConf hiker".
>> I would not expect more than about 20 people to do this.
>>
>> While I agree that it's indeed a very nice hike and expect some
>> people to actually do this hike, I think we should also offer a less
>> strenuous option like the "Gorges de l'Areuse" from Boudry to Champs
>> du Moulin.
>
> Sure. What I like from this hike is that it actually ends up with the
> rest of the crowd.
Sure that's an advantage.
> Other possibilities with that criteria satisfied
> include:
>
> - From "Les Rochat" to Soliat: 2h20, 350m uphill.
I like this variant as it also allows one group to go the whole way from
Le Camp and another group just part of the way (from Les Rochat).
> - From "St-Aubin" to Soliat, 3h40, 1040m uphill.
> - From "Couvet" to Soliat, 3h10, 600m uphill.
Both of these still qualify as too strenuous for the average geek in my
opinion.
>
> (All three need some coaches transportation, Couvet being the farest,
> but also the one going to the Asphalt mine AFAIK).
>
> The other possibility is doing that trip in the afternoon, downhill from
> Creux-du-Van:
>
> - From Creux-du-Van to Creux-du-Moulin; 2h10, 800m downhill
> - From Creux-du-Van to Boudry; 3h45, 1100m downhill
> - From Noiraigue to Boudry through Gorges de l'Areuse; 2h45, 400m
> downhill
All of these could be an option for those that want to shorten (or
completely skip) the time in Neuchatel. We could have one bus first
bringing some people to Noiraigue and then picking up people in
Champ-du-Moulin and Boudry.
>
> I think we should really think in terms of avoiding empty coaches moves,
> so going from or to places that are otherwise used for non-hiking
> attendees is worthwhile IMHO.
It depends. IMO we should consider costs and what's best for the
attendees. So if empty coach moves mean a lot more costs, sure we should
avoid this, but if we can maybe spare one coach it might actually even
be chaper.
For the afternoon one coach that brought people directly from Soliat to
Neuchatel could afterwards pick up people in Champ-du-Moulin and Boudry.
Gaudenz
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