Re: [Debconf-team] Debconf thoughts
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:22:16AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
>
> The discrimination part seems to me is a subjective opinion that is not
> shared by everyone. At least that is the impression I get from the
> discussions over the last weeks (please not that I've been following
> debconf-team for years).
>
Discrimination is never subjective. They are rather unperceived, specially
when they do not affect you.
Some people have a family member depending on them and they can not attend
DebConf if they don't bring along this family member (some times, it is the
opposite case). They are not expecting Debian to pay for this family member,
but we don't give them any facility to come to DebConf if we held debconf
in le Camp.
We also have contributors who are tall, and le Camp beds do not seem suited
for tall people (more than 190cm), some people might camp, but some others
prefer a bed. A lot of people can get by 1-2 days, but a full week can be
a (back) pain. Some of those people might prefer going to a hotel.
And probably many other reasons such a surgery recover, sleepwalking
or snoring to the point you know that for other people sharing a room with
you isn't healthy for them.
In le Camp, the possibilities of affordable hotel are *far* away and you need
a car, le Camp is served by public transportation but it is very limiting.
(Somebody added in the wiki the distances by bike, but I don't know
anyone who travels packing a bike in their suitcase...). These people will
also lose a big part of the DebConf experience beause they will spend
a big part of the conference far away or commuting.
So we are effectively discriminating some people in coming. If you are not
affected in any of those case or similars, good for you, some other people are.
It will never be perfect but we should aim to make DebConf more inclusive,
specially learning from the mistakes we have made in earlier years.
The localteam did some research in venues a lot of months ago, we all made
a mistake with that venue, we have found that is a mistake very early. So
let's try solving it?
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