Re: [Debconf-team] mailing lists on lists.debian.org
Hi
Thanks Richard for taking this up. This was also discussed during the
last IRC meeting. See
http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2012/debconf-team.2012-08-13-17.55.log.html#l-181
Martin Zobel-Helas showed some interest to work on this too.
Richard Darst <rkd@zgib.net> writes:
> Hi,
>
> A discussion on #debconf-team about using lurker as the mailing list
> archive turned into a discussion about using lists.debian.org for our
> mailing lists. formorer offered to help migrate debconf lists to
> there. I've heard this idea mentioned from a debian+debconf and
> minimizing redundancy, but it hasn't yet progressed this far.
> formorer offered to import all our archives given mboxes.
I would keep the old archives to not break links in mails and the wiki.
>
> Chief among advantages are a significant reduction of workload on our
> admin team, with only a minor cost to debian listmasters. Hopefully
> there will be fewer of the "lists are down" events, more
> standardization for volunteers coming to/from Debian, debian spam
> filtering, whitelisting, ..., and non-lurker archives is only a small
> side-benefit from this.
While I like the lurker interface better than the lists.debian.org
archive the other points seem like hughe improvements. Especially better
spam handling, sharing infrastructure and a msgid search. So I'm in
favour of this.
>
> For debconf-team: see
> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list
> This lists a lot of questions about making lists and the options.
>
> Listmasters:
> our current lists are here: http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo
> Also, we could import debconfNN-localteam lists from DC7--DC11 or so
> that aren't listed there.
>
> Would we use the debconf- prefix?
That would be fine for me. Eg. debconf-team@lists.debian.org
>
>
> Some considerations I can think of:
>
> - transferring subscribers. I assume we should do this.
+1
>
> - moderated lists: mainly debconf-announce. formorer offered
> shared-secret vs keyring based. I think keyring based would be very
> nice.
I'm not sure if keyring based is really the best option as this means
that someone has to manage this keyring which creates another
bottleneck. Shared-secret would be less secure but easier to handle
(anyone already having the secret could share it). Is there a way to
have a moderation queue like in Mailman? With this everyone could send
mails, but only a few could actually make them go out to the list subscribers.
> - would we want to redirect mails sent to old list to new list, or
> vice versa?
only lists.debconf.org -> lists.debian.org redirection seems necessary
to me.
>
> - delegation of management: can management for all lists be easily
> given to debconf people, or should is it per-list? Delegation would
> reduce listmaster load.
What kind of management are you thinking of? List creation or other
tasks. I don't think lists.debian.org need any management beside list
creation.
Gaudenz
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