Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf10 - call for Location proposals
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 09:51:21AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Well, I understand your frustration about several things said here. But I
> might add another reason which is probably neutral about US behaviour about
> visitors: I have to apply for a passport that includes my fingerprint if I
> want to go to US. But I also do not really like to have my own government to
> keep my fingerprint in their databases. If I want to avoid this I can not
> attend a DebConf in US (and so I do not consider attending).
Is this because your own government requires fingerprints to get a new
passport, and your current passport doesn't meet US Visa Waiver Program
requirements? Because the US does not require visitor passports to contain
fingerprints. (It will fingerprint you on entry though, and/or as part of the
application process if you decide to apply for a visa instead of using the Visa
Waiver Program.)
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 02:31:37PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Monday 08 September 2008 13:30, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> > FWIW, I have a valid spanish passport for travelling to the US and it has
> > not included my fingerprints.
> > OTOH, my goverment already has my fingerprint recorded because they
> > are/were compulsory in our ID card.
>
> Then the airline will send your fingerprints to the US if you go there.
Do you have evidence of this? My understanding is that fingerprints aren't part
of the Passenger Name Record info that's shared with the US government by
airlines on flights to the US. (It's possible that Ana's government might share
it independently of your travel; I have no idea what agreements are in place
about that.)
- Jimmy Kaplowitz
jimmy@debian.org
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