Re: Sprint on Seturday 12th July: Reforming ftpmaster team
- To: Nicolas Mora <babelouest@debian.org>, Anton Gladky <gladk@debian.org>, Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org>
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- Subject: Re: Sprint on Seturday 12th July: Reforming ftpmaster team
- From: Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 23:27:56 +0200
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On 17657 March 1977, Nicolas Mora wrote:
We could split the NEW queue into two (or more?) branches: one for the
new packages with an ITP that need to be fully reviewed, and need
enough
time to process, another one when a package is updated because of the
soname change or when the package has an update, like the t64 or a
change I recall in one of my package [1]. It could help the
ftp-masters
to organize their upcoming work.
Won't help and only makes things more complicated. The NEW processing
tool already sorts binary-addition-only to the front.
On the other hand, sometimes, some packages get a huge change in the
source code when bumping to a new version, but there is no change in
the
compiled package, so no reason to send it to NEW.
And thats why they aren't send to NEW.
On this last statement (if it's relevant), I don't have a solution,
the
maintainer is the first and most important part of the solution, but
we
could add a 'helpdesk' without having to push a package in NEW:
"Please
ftp-masters, can you review my package?"
So it all goes around "it takes too much time in NEW, too much work" and
the way here is to add MORE work to those doing NEW? Doesn't sound like
the best idea.
o The main proposed solution is to move the new package
processing
work to a separate host. This would allow more people to
safely
participate in reviews without needing access to the critical
main archive server.
If we can afford it thanks to the legal changes or so, it would be
awesome! It would also be better not to worry breaking the main
servers.
NEW processing can't break the server.
--
bye, Joerg
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