Re: Sprint on Seturday 12th July: Reforming ftpmaster team

[Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org>]

Hi Thorsten,

Thanks for sharing your perspective — I really appreciate it.

Am Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 10:14:16PM +0000 schrieb Thorsten Alteholz:
> > I’d love to have some open brainstorming about improvements and
> > alternatives in our archive processing and admin workflows (including
> > DAK).
> 
> Just some thoughts for your discussion: The results of my trainee experiment
> are rather impressive. A new trainee who had no ideas about any ftpmaster
> workflow should do what he thought was best to check a package. After some
> time he "reinvented" the current procedure.

Sounds promising.  Nicolas Mora will join from remote.  We'll highly
estimate his insight.

> So from my point of view the
> workflow for NEW processing is fine and there is no need to turn it upside
> down. Of course this task is one of the most boring tasks imaginable and not
> everyone is capable of doing it. 

In my view, some of the tension between the FTP team and the wider
developer community may come from mutual misunderstandings. The purpose
of today’s meeting is not to turn anything upside down — unless the team
itself (including any new members) agrees that changes could make the
work more effective and enjoyable.

It’s important to me that this essential task is handled by enough
people to match the workload — and that those doing the work have the
space to shape how it’s done, in a way they find satisfying. I believe
adding new members is part of that, and they should have a say in
whether or not to adopt new procedures.

I've sensed frustration on both sides (and I worry I may have
unintentionally contributed to it myself). That’s why open conversation
feels so important--and that’s the main reason we’re here today.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

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