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Bug#325698: marked as done (child distributions)

Your message dated Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:44:05 +0100
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and subject line Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian
has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done.

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Yo!

changelog:
 * demudi is part of agnula (and: isn't it a cdd now and should be dropped 
here?  It is mentioned in 
<http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/ch-existing.en.html>)
 * Mention Damn Small Linux
 * Corel Linux is dead - I don't think we need to keep entries for dead 
distributions.
 * APLinux: delete links to further APLinux information, they are easily 
reachable from the APLinux home page.
 * BenHur -> Collax
 * Demolinux: better wording.  Project seems to be stalled since 2002 - drop 
it from the list?
 * StoneGate: correct link
 * Storm Linux: dead, drop it
 * Linux-YeS: can't find anything current in google...
 * Progeny:  not available as a product anymore, afaict
 * Telemetrybox:  not available anymore
 * deleted outdated xandros (>1year) reviews.

Finally.
 * distrowatch carries a more complete list --> link to that.
... should we just link to that list and drop the rest of the page 
alltogether?

On the matter of dead dstributions:  distrowatch archives some information 
about historical distributions.  Alternatively we may want to create a 
separate list of these.  In any case, I hold that this list in its present 
form should describe 'live' projects only.

cheers
-- vbi

==========
Index: children-distros.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/misc/children-distros.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.47
diff -u -r1.47 children-distros.wml
--- children-distros.wml        27 Feb 2005 10:27:15 -0000      1.47
+++ children-distros.wml        30 Aug 2005 09:25:33 -0000
@@ -12,28 +12,23 @@
 contract</a>, we ask them to contribute their work to the main distribution
 so that ultimately, all users can benefit from improvements.</p>

-<p>The known Debian-based distributions are (in alphabetical order,
-not chronological):
-</p>
+<p>Debian-based distributions include:</p>

 <UL>
   <LI><a href="#adamantix">Adamantix</a>

+  <LI><a href="#demudi">Agnula/DeMuDi</A>
+
   <LI><a href="#aplinux">APLINUX</a>

-  <LI><a href="#benhur">BenHur</a>
+  <LI><a href="#collax">Collax</a>

-  <LI><a href="#corel">Corel Linux</a>
+  <LI><a href="#damnsmall">Damn Small Linux</A>

   <LI><a href="#debian-jp">Debian JP</A>

   <LI><a href="#demolinux">DemoLinux</a>

-  <LI>Demudi, <url "http://www.demudi.org/";>, a multimedia distribution.
-
-# <LI>Eagle Linux m68k,
-# <url "http://www.eagle-cp.com/www/m68k.html";> [in German]
-
   <LI>Embedded Debian, <url "http://www.emdebian.org/";>

   <LI><a href="#eswarelinux">ESware Linux</a>
@@ -61,36 +56,33 @@

   <LI><a href="#linuxin">Linuxin</a>

-  <LI>Linux-YeS, http://eugene.mplik.ru/doc/lys/
-
   <LI>Linux Router Project, <url "http://www.linuxrouter.org/";>

   <LI>MEPIS, <url "http://www.mepis.org/";>

-  <LI>M.N.I.S. Linux, <url "http://www.mnis.fr/";>
+  <LI>M.N.I.S. OCERA, <url "http://www.mnis.fr/en/products/";>

   <LI><a href="#morphix">Morphix</a>

   <LI>PingOO, <url "http://www.linuxedu.org/";>

-  <LI>Progeny Linux, <url "http://www.progeny.com/";>
-
   <LI>Prosa, <url "http://www.prosa.it/";>

   <LI><a href="#rays">RAYS LX</a>

   <LI><a href="#stonegate">Stonegate</A>

-  <LI><a href="#storm">Stormix Technologies' Storm Linux</A>.
-
-  <li>TelemetryBox, <url "http://telemetrybox.org/";>
-
   <li><a href="#ubuntu">Ubuntu</a>

   <LI><a href="#xandros">Xandros</A>.

 </UL>

+<p>Please note that this list is not complete.  Distrowatch aims at collecting
+much more complete data, so you may want to look in <a
+href="http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=independence";>their list</a> to
+find more information about the relationship between the various Linux
+distributions.</p>

 <H2><a name="adamantix">Adamantix</a></H2>

@@ -102,6 +94,13 @@
 platform.
 </p>

+<h2><a name="demudi">Agnula/DeMuDi</a></h2>
+
+<p><a href="http://demudi.agnula.org/";>Agnula/DeMuDi</a> is a part of the
+<a href="http://www.agnula.org/";>Agnula</a> project, trying to optimize Linux
+for use in audio and video processing.  DeMuDi is intended to be folded back
+into Debian and be maintained as a <a
+href="http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/";>Custom Debian Distribution</a>.</p>

 <H2><a name="aplinux">APLINUX</a></H2>

@@ -111,61 +110,17 @@
 configuration of the system, with the purpose to achieve the maximum
 in trustworthiness, stability and security.</p>

-<p>Available services in the APLINUX project website:</p>
+<H2><a name="Collax">Collax</a></H2>

-<ul>
-<li><a href="http://www.aplinux.com.br/forum";>Discussion forum</a></li>
-<li><a href="http://www.aplinux.com.br/faq.htm";>FAQ</a></li>
-<li><a href="http://www.aplinux.com.br/repositorio.php";>Packages
-    repository</a></li>
-</ul>
-
-
-<H2><a name="benhur">BenHur</a></H2>
-
-<p>BenHur
-(<url "http://www.pyramid.de/e/benhur/index.shtml";>)
-is a firewall appliance based on Debian.
-It provides an e-mail server with virus protection, fax server,
-VPN gateway, SMS server, web proxy and remote access (RADIUS) functionalities.
-Read it's <a href="http://www.pyramid.de/e/news/downloads/bh2_flyer.pdf";>datasheet</a> for more information.
-</p>
+<p><a href="http://www.collax.com/";>Collax</a> (formerly BenHur) is a server
+appliance based on Debian.  It provides a firewall, e-mail server with virus
+protection, fax server, VPN gateway, SMS server, web proxy and remote access
+(RADIUS) functionalities.</p>

+<h2><a name="damnsmall">Damn Small Linux</a></h2>

-<H2><a name="corel">Corel Linux</a></H2>
-
-<p>Corel developed a distribution based on Debian bundled with its
-WordPerfect and other Corel software. Corel chose Debian because
-<q>...it offers an excellent fit with the company's existing
-customer base and Linux mission. Debian has a solid charter, a strong
-worldwide developer base and a thorough testing period</q> as
-described in its
-# http://www.corel.com/news/1999/may/may_1999_faqs.htm
-FAQ (no longer available).
-It was released in <a href="$(HOME)/News/weekly/1999/44/">November
-1999</a>, after a few public <a
-href="http://old.lwn.net/1999/features/CorelLinux/";>betas</a>. This
-opened some discussion due to the fact that Corel had elected KDE
-for its GUI, and KDE license issues were not yet solved within
-Debian. Three different editions were published from 1999 to the end
-of the year 2000. However, in the year 2001 it <a
-href="http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/PressRelease/Details&amp;id=ZZZZ8DJU78T";>announced</a>
-its intention to spin off the Linux distribution.
-</p>
-
-<p>Corel Linux was available from http://linux.corel.com/.
-Users wishing to upgrade to newer Debian releases can use, as a guideline,
-the <a href="$(HOME)/News/weekly/2000/25/mail#2">Corel to Debian
-micro-howto</a> published in Debian support mailing lists.
-</p>
-
-<p>However, afterwards it was licensed to a new company called
-Xandros Corporation <url "http://www.xandros.net/";> (see the <a
-href="http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/PressRelease/Details&amp;id=ZZZZ8DJU86H";>press
-release</a>), a company which includes some of the developers and
-architects of the original Corel Linux.
-Read more about <a href="#xandros">Xandros</a>.
-
+<p><a href="http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/";>Damn Small Linux</a> is a 50M live
+CD based on Knoppix geared towards desktop use on weak hardware.</p>

 <h2><a name="debian-jp">Debian JP</a></h2>

@@ -195,19 +150,17 @@
 it works and what can it offer you.
 </p>

-<p>Since version 2.0 it is <a
-href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/versions/version-debian.html";>Debian-based</A>
-(version 3.0 is <a
-href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/versions/liste-simple-deb.3.0";>also
-based on Debian</a>).
-</p>
+<p>It is <a
+href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/versions/version-debian.html";>based on
+Debian</a> starting with version 2.0.</p>

 <p>DemoLinux is available from <url "http://www.demolinux.org/";>.
 CD images can be obtained from <url
 "http://www.demolinux.org/DOWNLOAD/";> (but first, please try some
 of the <a
 href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/distribution/obtenir-demolinux.html";>mirrors</A>).
-</p>
+Please note that the Demolinux project has apparently not been updated since
+summer 2002.</p>

 <H2><a name="eswarelinux">ESware Linux</a></H2>
 <P>ESware Linux 365 is a Spanish commercial distribution that surfaced in 2001
@@ -332,33 +285,13 @@

 <H2><a name="stonegate">Stonegate</a></H2>

-<p>Stonegate, <url "http://www.stonesoft.com/products/stonegate/";>,
+<p>Stonegate, <url "http://www.stonesoft.com/products/";>,
 is a high-availability firewall with virtual private network, and load
 balancing capabilities. These capabilities are closed-source (proprietary)
 but the base operating system (even if it's not widely publicized) is
 Debian GNU/Linux.
 </p>

-<H2><a name="storm">Storm Linux</a></H2>
-
-<p>Storm was a distribution based on Debian GNU/Linux which <a
-href="$(HOME)/News/weekly/1999/27/">appeared in 1999</a> (the first
-alpha was released in <a
-href="http://old.lwn.net/1999/0708/a/storm.html";>July</a>).
-However, the manufacturer, Stormix Technologies,
-<a href="http://old.lwn.net/2001/features/Timeline/?month=jan";>filed for
-bankruptcy in the year 2001</a> (some more information about this on <a
-href="http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/01/27/1451236&amp;mode=nocomment";>Newsforge</a>).
-Storm Linux received some good reviews
-# href="http://linuxpower.org/display.php?id=162";
-# href="http://www.gnulinux.com/articles/stormix.shtml";
-but the distribution is no longer available.
-</p>
-
-<p>Storm was available at Stormix Technologies' Storm Linux website,
-http://www.stormix.com/ (no longer available)
-</p>
-
 <h2><a name="ubuntu">Ubuntu</a></h2>

 <p>Ubuntu (<url "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/";>) is a Linux distribution
@@ -375,13 +308,5 @@
 </p>

 <H2><a name="xandros">Xandros</a></H2>
-<p>Xandros Desktop <url "http://www.xandros.net/";> is another
-Debian-based distribution, which appeared after Corel Linux
-(as described in its <a
-href="http://www.xandros.net/faq";>FAQ</a>).
-
-<P>You can read a review on Xandros 1.0 at
-<a href="http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,648362,00.asp";>ExtremeTech</A>,
-<a href="http://www.distrowatch.com/review-xandros.php";>DistroWatch</a>, and
-<a href="http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1762";>OSnews</a> (beta preview).
-</p>
+<p>Xandros Desktop <url "http://www.xandros.com/";> is another
+Debian-based distribution, with roots going back to Corel Linux.</p>
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Adrian von Bidder <avbidder@fortytwo.ch> wrote:
> Offering a patch doesn't always make a difference to the web team, 
> apparently - #325698 is open for 1y207d without one single comment.

I think that may have been because:

1. the patch is inline in the message body, yet inside a PGP/MIME mail
text part, so neither the whole mail nor the patch part can be piped
to my patch-handling tools simply; and

2. it doesn't apply cleanly to the cvs revision 1.47 of the file that
the diff header seems to claim - are you sure the patch was clean?

In short, that patch was unnecessarily fiddly to handle and probably
got little response from the web team because we start to doubt our
patch-handling tools, rather than someone who seems as smart as you.

I've salvaged the Collax and Damn Small Linux parts and committed them.
The rest looks obsoleted by later changes to me.  Closing the bug report.

Hope that helps,
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