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Re: has your squeeze ever crashed?

On 03/13/2013 12:19 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Yaro Kasear <yaro@marupa.net> wrote:

On 03/13/2013 10:53 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Long Wind wrote:

linux is stable, or is it?
flash player


Linux is stable and flash player isn't Linux, flash player development for
Linux already is dropped, there will be no future versions for Linux. If
people want Microsoft/Apple, regarding to Apple flash player is a bad
example ;), they should use Microsft/Apple. Linux is an OS for itself, not a
Replacement-OS for other OS. It's a misconception.

If you need flash player, then Linux isn't a good choice for your needs.



I'm fairly certain Adobe is still developing Flash Player for Linux and has
no plans to stop

>From https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html :

"Linux

Adobe has been working closely with Google to develop a single, modern
API for hosting plug-ins within the browser. The PPAPI, code-named
"Pepper", aims to provide a layer between the plug-in and browser that
abstracts away differences between browser and operating system
implementations. You can find more information on the Pepper API at
http://code.google.com/p/ppapi/.

Because of this work, Adobe has been able to partner with Google in
providing a "Pepper" implementation of Flash Player for all x86/64
platforms supported by the Google Chrome browser. Google now
distributes this new Pepper-based Flash Player as part of Chrome on
all platforms, including Linux.

For Flash Player releases after 11.2, the Flash Player browser plug-in
for Linux will only be available via the "Pepper" API as part of the
Google Chrome browser distribution and will no longer be available as
a direct download from Adobe. Adobe will continue to provide security
updates to non-Pepper distributions of Flash Player 11.2 on Linux for
five years from its release.

Flash Player will continue to support browsers using non-"Pepper"
plug-in APIs on platforms other than Linux.

Adobe will not be providing a Pepper-based debug player implementation
of the Flash Player browser plug-in on Linux.

As of Adobe AIR 3, Adobe has discontinued support for Adobe AIR for
Linux operating systems."


Cheers,
Kelly
That's still a far cry from NO FLASH EVER FOR LINUX, which was the original assertion. Just "no Flash outside of Chrome." Further, the citation you gave doesn't say that Flash users outside of Chrome are cut off entirely, they just won't get NEW Flash. Apparently security updates are still a go.
Knowing the ingenuity of Linux users, hackers, and developers, someone will find a way to get this "Pepper" thing working on Firefox.
Further, it's still not a big thing. Gnash, while certainly not up to par with Flash itself, is fine for most usage. And another couple years will see HTML 5 supercede Flash anyway. As for AIR... I can't think of a single Linux app I use that actually deployed it, except maybe Hulu Desktop (Did that use AIR?) So is that even a loss?
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