Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

[MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop>]

"Raul Miller" <moth.debian@gmail.com>
> 
> On 3/14/06, MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> wrote:
> > [File permissions]
> > Thereby, it can prevent unauthorised copying and meets the above
> > definition, as far as I can see.
> 
> Same thing goes for a wooden door -- a wooden door can prevent
> unauthorized copying, in the sense you're using
> 
> Same thing goes for a brick wall -- a brick wall can prevent
> unauthorized copying, in the sense you're using.

I can see some difficulty in proving they are technological, but
if a marker pen can be classed as a circumvention device, it seems
possible that they might be technological measures sometimes, if
they are doors or walls designed to prevent such copying.

> Same thing goes for the atlantic ocean -- the atlantic ocean can prevent
> unauthorized copying, in the sense you're using.
> 
> Notice a trend here?  None of this has anything to do with preventing
> someone who has a copy from making unauthorized copies.

That situation isn't my main concern. File permissions clearly
"obstruct or control the reading or further copying of the copies
you make or distribute" as well as meet the definition of a
technological measure.

> > The other things you mention are how technological measures are
> > sometimes used, but that's not how it's phrased in law or in the FDL.
> 
> Do you seriously believe the GFDL prohibits the atlantic ocean?

It's very hard to argue that the atlantic ocean was designed to prevent
unauthorised copying, which is part of the legislative definition here.

Hope that explains,
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