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Re: REVISED PROPOSAL regarding DFSG 3 and 4, licenses, and modifiable text



On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 11:30:47PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > I believe Debian should have a standard a priori the GNU Emacs Manual
> > (for example), and not reason backwards on the assumption that
> > everything that is in main must belong there.

> I can't parse the first sentence here; perhaps that's the problem.
> Can you reword it?  

Debian should develop an interpretive standard for the DFSG based on
premises that do *not* include: "The GNU Emacs Manual must be in main
come hell or high water."  More generally, Debian's interpretive
standard should not regard any particular package which happens to be in
main at present as somehow "deserving" of being there.  Not the Linux
kernel, not the GNU C Library, not <insert your favorite
shell/editor/terminal emulator here>.

What legitimizes a work under the DFSG is the license as applied to that
work.  Period.

Should we look before we leap, and not interpret the DFSG in such a way
that would decimate main?  Absolutely.  I believe I have done so with
respect to my own proposal, and while I would not be happy to see the
GNU Emacs Manual rendered non-free (which is by no means a certainty,
let's keep in mind), it's not a deal-breaker for me.  Your mileage may
vary.  Some people regard all things GNU with a sort of religious
reverence.  I personally just try to accord the FSF the respect I think
it has earned.  That doesn't mean I think Debian should subordinate its
own standards or needs to the FSF's desires.

But, my proposal isn't about the FSF.  It's about DFSG 3 and 4, and how
we apply them.

-- 
G. Branden Robinson                |    There is no housing shortage in
Debian GNU/Linux                   |    Lincoln today -- just a rumor that
branden@debian.org                 |    is put about by people who have
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |    nowhere to live.    -- G. L. Murfin

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