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Re: kde 4.3.4 is building for unstable now ;-) [OT] nvidia-installer Vs m-a



Hello,

On sekmadienis 13 Gruodis 2009 00:56:15 Manolete, ese artista wrote:
> El Sábado 12 Diciembre 2009 22:55:25 Matthew Moore escribió:
> > IMO this is no more work than running some script, and it also doesn't
> > require you to navigate to nvidia's website in order to download the
> > latest version.
> 
> Well, in fact all what I do is going to
>  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122606, which is in my
>  bookmarks -as it's a permanent post-, and click the latest stable driver
>  link. Not much navigation really. And maybe it's possible to make it
>  easier via wget and some script, I haven't even tried it just for saving
>  two mouse clicks.
> 
> On the other hand, all the packages needed by module-assistant to function,
>  as any other package installed, need to be upgraded frequently, so, more
>  time and downloads required, not much, but more or less the same time it
>  takes to download the way I've said.
> 
> Both ways seem to have advantages and its inconvenients, I just find less
>  intrincate to download and execute than installing several dozens of MB
>  for installing a simple driver. If I had to install a lot of drivers with
>  m-a I probably would do the same with mi gfx card's, but it's not the
>  case, and since I don't see many benefits in m-a a-i I don't use it,
>  that's all; I understand Valerio's point in case one needs several
>  kernels, though, but, again, it's not my case, and I guess not other
>  official driver users. There aren't probably many clear benefits for an
>  option over the other one for the average user. Matter of needs and
>  personal peferences, I suppose.

Well, what you helps you is that you are experienced enough user to be able to 
deal with all bad side effects of nvidia installer. It also helps that you 
understand those side effects. Nvidia installer generally causes:

1) System pollution with libraries and other files some of which might not be 
needed.

2) Overriding of system libraries that are managed by dpkg/apt. Therefore, 
various X library upgrades keep breaking your X server resulting into 
unbootable system (from a typical desktop user POV).

3) What makes things worse is that uninstaller does not uninstall everything 
and might leave old garbage around which is hard to track.

In other words, nvidia installer should not be recommended for novice users 
and those who don't know their system on low level. As little as I track 
#debian , I've already had a "pleasure" to help users clean up system from the 
mess caused by nvidia installer a couple of times. Believe me, it was not fun 
for them AND for me.

-- 
Modestas Vainius <modestas@vainius.eu>

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