Re: DSL

[tps@unslept.com]

On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:42:35AM -0800, Duane Powers wrote:
> Is he going to be using static ip's?

Yup. It's for his business.

> I don't know of any ISP that will perform the routing nescessary for 
> this for DSL customers (not enough revenue.)
> 
> If he is just using dynamic ip's, and running something like a linux 
> router (ipchains, masq, et al:) then he could *conceivably* do it, but 
> since you then ask about BGP.
> 
> The rules for BGP specify a multi-homed connection (at least 2 different 
> providers) and most ISP's want you to have at least a /24 before they'll 
> run BGP with you, My ISP charges $BIG_BUCKS for the setup, due to the 
> very nature of bgp. Quite frankly, that won't be an option.

I never thought of that. My current primary upstream (verio) had no
problem with just sending me full routes.

> Also, in order to run BGP, you need a router that will do it. (most 
> often a CISCO, but you can do it with a linux box.)

Right. I'm using a Linux box with an SDL N2 board, and running Zebra

> IMHO, Look at the prices for two "business class DSL" services, then 
> compare that to the T1, not as large a difference for the level of 
> service... and remember, T-1 is 1.544M, synchronous, DSL is "up to" 1.5M 
> download, 128K upload.  HUGE difference.

Well, around here, SDSL 1.5/1.5 Mb with a full /24 runs about $350/mo.
Most local providers, us included, charge about $1000/mo for a full T1,
and then you have the local loop charge. That's not cheap either.

Tim

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