Re: Renesas SH4 support in emdebian

[Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <iwamatsu@nigauri.org>]

Hi,

2010/2/24 Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:12:30 +0000
> Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:50:46 +0900
>> Nobuhiro Iwamatsu <iwamatsu@debian.org> wrote:
>>
>> > This CPU[0] is useing on Embeded system.
>> > I want to support Renesas SH4 in emdebian.
>> >
>> > Where should I begin work with?
>
> Another problem has arisen. debian-ports has no support for testing
> migrations. This could prevent Emdebian Grip creating a testing
> distribution for SH4 that would be suitable for a stable release. What
> happens is that the packages that *should* remain in testing and go
> into freeze, will be replaced by subsequent uploads to unstable which
> are *not* to be released. Files literally disappear or do not exist in
> time before the equivalent Debian package has migrated.
>
> If SH4 is to be a release architecture for Emdebian Grip, this will
> have to be fixed. The only real way to do that is to get SH4 into
> ftp.debian.org and subject to the usual "Britney" rules for testing
> migration as a release architecture for Debian. Emdebian Grip does not
> have the manpower or resources to duplicate the Debian release team and
> their testing migration coordination workload - partly because that
> would mean delaying testing migrations on behalf of SH4. We cannot
> simply assume that package "foo" migrates into testing on SH4 in
> Emdebian when Debian does not have a testing package (even in -ports) -
> there is no guarantee that the appropriate version has yet been built
> for SH4 because testing migrations do not wait for SH4 to be up to date
> (it isn't a release architecture).
>
> This will have to be fixed before any packages are frozen for the
> Debian 6.0 "squeeze" release.
>
> The only other way is for someone else to manage SH4 testing migrations
> in a "best-effort" process in their own repository, using the scripts
> in emdebian-grip-server - or on debian-ports. This level of
> work-duplication is not attractive, the best approach would be to get
> SH4 into the list of architectures deemed suitable for release with
> Squeeze. It turns out that the links between Emdebian and Debian are
> deeper than may first appear - testing and freeze processes are tightly
> integrated. Releasing SH4 in Emdebian Grip is not shortcut to getting
> SH4 accepted as a release architecture for Debian - indeed, unless
> -ports can support testing migrations, support in Emdebian must follow
> support in Debian, not vice versa.
>

I see.
And I understand your opinion and approve of it.
I want to put sh4 in squeeze. However, this will be very difficult.
I think that I mistake in the timing of the support request in emdebian.

Best regards,
  Nobuhiro

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