Re: Innovation in Debian

Ahoy,

I am not active in Debian development much but I do observe it closely and must

say that Debian needs innovation a lot - not for purpose to innovate but there are

so much talented people with great ideas that just need to *explode*. For me, unstable

or experimental should be *just do it* and develop it so Debian gains momentum (or

some other nice solution to gain that).

DD's should encourage among themselves this kind thing and to pass it on others in

Debian project (contributors of any kind - code developers, translators, artist etc.). It

would be good to quickly create some base (innovation is quick) like some website

with database so everyone could be pointed at and to announce it on Bits, News and

every Linux related website/blog such as Distrowatch, Phoronix (we may or may not

like those but they have fair audience), LWN, Linux Foundation etc.

Btw, maybe we should call/encourage some (for now) non-Debian developers to attend

DebConf and Debian IRC channels more frequently? I know we are welcoming but we

**suck** at exposing our project to worldwide community because its really hard for

average developer to even find about Debian Project on itself (or am I mistaking :p ).

Cheers,

zlatan

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> wrote:

Ahoy, fellow developers,

Having followed the recent threads, I've been growing concerned - not of
sticking with an old init system, or switching to a new one, or even the
god-aweful tone of every damn post on that thread (srsly guise).

I'm mostly concerned that we, as a project, have a *hard* time trying
out big, breakey things -- I know, we're Debian, we're stable, I get
that.

So, given that no one wants to upload something broken to unstable (lots
of users, might end up in stable and have to support it for 5 years),
how can we, as a project, step up innovation in Debian? Where can we
break these things and try out new bits of integration?

I certenly don't have time to manage setting up infra to manage a "fork"
(or even a private overlay) of Debian, so how can we support these new
bits inside Debian?

We do have PPAs coming up - we could use those with breaking "NMUs" (PPA
Owner Uploads? POU?) of packages to help with integration, but I fear
there might be project backlash over that.

So, what do *you* think? How can we break more of Debian for fun and
profit?

Cheers,
Paul

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