Am Dienstag, den 07.06.2011, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Neil Williams: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:34:30 +0200 > Vincent Danjean <vdanjean.ml@free.fr> wrote: > > > > A few days ago, we had a discussion about a packaging-dev meta package. > > > The responses were between neutral and positive. Therefore I created a > > > initial draft [1] and tried to incorporate all suggestions made in the > > > discussion. > > > > > > The list looks currently like this: > > > > > > Depends: [...] > > > pbuilder | cowbuilder | sbuild, > > > > My laptop, where I do all my packaging work but final build, has > > none of them installed. I've a separate machine with several chroots > > (lenny, squeeze, unstable and several for ubuntu) managed with sbuild that > > I use when I want to really build the package I will upload. Due to disk > > space, I cannot instal them (chroots) on my laptop. > > I other people work like me, these tools can be moved to Recommends > > I disagree. pbuilder or the alternatives are fundamental to best > practice Debian packaging. The needs of Debian are wider than a single > user having a problem with a single machine. > > This package is trying to express best practice for packaging, to get a > baseline. You admit that you have a way of building in a chroot and it > isn't required that everyone uploading to Debian has this package > installed, it is simply a way of making it simple for most people to > have a standard set of build tools. > > Most people would have space for a pbuilder chroot (it's only a few > hundred megabytes even unpacked, it's the apt cache which takes up the > space and that can be cleared with a configuration change) and everyone > using packaging-dev should be expected (required) to use a chroot to > build packages prior to upload. > > Recommending chroot build tools is not strong enough. Beginners are the target, not experienced packagers. That's why Neil's reasons seems to be stronger for me than Vincent's. Therefore I will leave the chroot dependency as dependency unless more people are in favor of moving them to Recommends. -- Benjamin Drung Debian & Ubuntu Developer
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