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Re: Bug#138541: ITP: debian-sanitize (was Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material)



>>"Jeff" == Jeff Licquia <licquia@debian.org> writes:

 Jeff> On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 17:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> 
 >> You are assuming there is a common cultural background that
 >> shall determine what the broad community finds offensive.
 >> Unfortunately, with the spread of the internet, Debian is no longer a
 >> localized mostly european heritage distribution. We hae
 >> constituencies that find things offensive that you may hold dear, and
 >> vice versa. 

 Jeff> There are some things that can be classified as universally
 Jeff> abhorrent.  Advocating the murder of innocents would hold up
 Jeff> anywhere, I would imagine.

	So i guess the bible, with the genocide of the people of
 Caanan, is out.  More to the point, software and ideas about
 genocide, and past practices of the same, are critical to education
 of the next generation.

	We are talking ideas and software her. 


 Jeff> I'm not looking for a package that will make Jerry Falwell happy.  I'm
 Jeff> looking for something that will allow people to weed out the most
 Jeff> egregious stuff, like the famous BitchX taglines.

	There is no distinction. You are proposing that you do not
 want one persons opinion (based closely on a consensus opinion of a
 segment of US population), and yet you substitute another majority
 opinion as the basis for this censorship.  Same difference.

 Jeff> No; the only things that are *noteworthy* in their offensiveness are
 Jeff> determined by majority vote.  You are free to be offended by anything
 Jeff> else you find on the system without asking the Project's approval.

	And thus begins the slide.

 >> You are free to do as you please, of course, but I would
 >> object to any GR that tries to implement this censorship by majority.

 Jeff> I think that the point here is that we're avoiding censorship by
 Jeff> providing a way for people to evaluate what they want on their own.

	No, you are not: You are taking upon yourself to tell people
 what is not good, for the sake of the children. People do not need
 this package to make their own evaluations. 

	manoj
-- 
 Why are these athletic shoe salesmen following me??
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