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Re: G3C announces: GML, Gopher and XHTML

>freedom of speech isn’t without freedom of consequence

y'all are basically anger vending machines at this point,  20h pops a bad boy token into the slot and angry responses come out.

the only time this list is active when someone is being outraged about something Christoph said.


On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:40 PM Paula Ash <paula.ash@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 2, 2021, at 10:45 PM, barana . <barana24@hotmail.com> wrote:

Seriously, you all behave like you havent seen an april fools day joke.(afore mentioned humour)

From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
Sent: Saturday, 3 April 2021 11:44 AM
To: Ivan J. <parazyd@dyne.org>
Cc: Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com>; gopher-project@other.debian.org <gopher-project@other.debian.org>
Subject: Re: G3C announces: GML, Gopher and XHTML
On Fri, Apr 02 2021, Ivan J. wrote:

> Sad to say, you also seem to be ignoring all the actual effort
> Bitreich is doing to help and improve Gopher and its adoption.

Spreading racism helps nothing and nobody.  It has no place in
this community.

Writing Gopher patches to software is great, but that doesn't mean
that racism and sexism must accompany it.

I want to assure everyone, lurkers and regular participants, that
Christoph Lohmann does not speak for this community, that racism
has no place in this or any other Open Source community, and that
you are not alone in your feeling of revulsion at it.

I have no respect for racists and no desire to work with people
that seek to use technical lists to spread racism, regardless of
what their Free Software activities are.  Free Software is about
treating people ethically and making the world a better place, and
racism and sexism are antithetical to these aims.

- John

1.  Thanks John.  And that’s the spirit of free software.  Collaboration shouldn’t care about who or what you are.  It’s a social activity.  And while I don’t contribute much outside of occasionally maintaining a small Gopher hole on SDF and browsing Floodgap, it’s still nostalgic for me.

2.  Barana:  He can say whatever he darn well pleases on his own servers.  But subjugating an unwilling audience to “humor” like this after his previous thread is just tone deaf.  A good comic knows how to read the room.

Also,  freedom of speech isn’t without freedom of consequence, after all.  This was his consequence.  I was just providing an explanation why some people in some circles might be sensitive towards the topic.  Heck, if I wanted to be truly mad about it, I would be mad at the male-oriented metadata in this “joke”.  But, as I may be one of the few women here, it’s just a part of where I am.

3.  Chris Brannon:  Thanks.  Yeah, I’ve been here awhile but don’t say much.  And old protocols (and systems) have been a lifelong interest of mine.  :) I don’t pay too much to Bitreich but he seems...a little different.  But, it takes all kinds of people to make a community.

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