Re: [gopher] Hello Gopher Project
Markdown has the benefits of staying true to the purpose of Gopher, an
ultra low bandwidth for text-based document retrieval. Unlike HTML,
Markdown is readable is not rendered by a "Browser". Eg.
Markdown header:
A example Header
================
HTML header:
<h2>A example Header</h2>
Markdown List:
- List item 1
- List item 2
- List item 3
HTML List:
<ul>
<li>List item 1</li>
<li>List item 2</li>
<li>List item 3</li>
</ul>
HTML is even more unreadable in plain text when you have "embedded
lists", whereas Markdown will look great and is still very readable.
I'd recommend taking a quick peek at the Markdown project website to see:
http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax
One of the most popular places where Markdown is being used over HTML
is on Source code repository READMEs and documentation files. Github
uses it a lot, and so does BitBucket. Here is an example of a
downgraded Markdown document in text format on Gopher:
gopher://gopher.veroneau.net/0sandbox/markdown.md
Personally, when reading documents on Gopher, I'd like the option to
just see a plain text format, without any fonts and such. Markdown
makes it possible to easily have 2 versions of the same document in a
single text file. So users who would like to have rich text, can, and
users who want just a basic text document, can. Markdown is the best
of both worlds.
Markdown does support Links and images too, as seen in that link above.
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:41:10 +0100
Mateusz Viste <mateusz@viste.fr> wrote:
> Specifically, I use Firefox with Overbite (on my laptop), Overbite for
> Android (on my phone) and Gopherus (on my DOS desktop) for all my my
> gopher needs.
>
> The md upgrade of Overbite for Android, while very respectable, might
> not be the best example of 'why md could be relevant', since Overbite
> was already supporting html rendering, giving much more flexibility than
> what md can provide.
>
> What kind of browser do we have out there, that do not support html, but
> could be realistically upgraded with markdown support other than
> 'display it as text'?
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
> On 12/15/2014 10:17 AM, James Mills wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Mateusz Viste <mateusz@viste.fr
> > <mailto:mateusz@viste.fr>> wrote:
> >
> > About markdown: I am not sure that multiplication of gopher types is
> > a good thing, as it's already somewhat a mess right now. The main
> > question would be probably to know what are the benefits of
> > markdown? If I understood correctly, it's a text format that brings
> > simplistic 'rich' content with a set of font styles. As you noted,
> > some people (me included) are using html on gopher, which already
> > provides such capabilities. It also allows to use links, and embed
> > images (does markdown allow this?). html is supported by virtually
> > anything nowadays, that provides some graphical rendering... So I am
> > not convinced markdown support would bring any significant
> > improvements to gopher. Nonetheless, I'll listen to other's
> > arguments with much interest.
> >
> >
> > How do you do this specifically?
> >
> > The only viable Browser client I know of is Firefox with Overbite.
> >
> > It's the the sheer lack of "Browser" support for Gopher that
> > I would say Markdown rendering has a place in the context
> > of new/improved clients (e.g: The update Kevin made for
> > Overbite for Android).
> >
> > cheers
> > James
> >
> >
> > James Mills / prologic
> >
> > E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au <mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>
> > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au <http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au>
> >
> >
>
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