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Bug#727680: “Yes, do as I say!“ sounds odd



On 27/10/2013 18:54, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fabien Givors (Debian)
> <f+debian@chezlefab.net> wrote:
>> I'm rather against that.
>>
>> --force-all does't only force removal of essential packages, but also
>> AFAIK installation from untrusted sources, etc.
>>
>> More generally, I think that options like "--force-all" shouls /never/
>> be recommanded as good practices. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
> 
> I agree, but I don't see how removing essentials could be interpreted as
> "good practice"
Well, replacing the (essential) init with a non-supported one looks to
me like an operation that should be well supported by the package
manager. The fact that everything may break after is not the
responsibility on APT/DPKG anymore (and that's' to my understanding, the
non-supported part.)

Then using the "I'll do everything I can without checking anything"
--force-yes option looks to me like "we don't support removing essential
packages anymore".

But that's where I may be wrong. Maybe we don't support the removal of
essential packages. Or maybe the --force-yes option can't add more
danger than the validation of the failsafe.

I'm sure you have, as an apt dev, a better understanding than me of
these problems so, now that I've reported my thoughts, I'll stop arguing
and trust your decision :)

Thank you for your work,

Regards,

-- 
captnfab

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