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Bug#575965: xserver-xorg-video-intel: Random complete freezes of whole system



> vesa may help in the meanwhile?

Last I checked vesa cannot even give me a root window. Probably has something 
to do with the 1440x900 size of the LCD.

> > but mistakenly upgraded later and now I do not have 2.9.0 anywhere
> Sounds like a kernel issue then? I hope you'll be able to get some
> traces at some point. :)

I would have thought changing intel driver and getting a problem, then 
changing back to the original and getting rid of it, would indicate intel 
driver problem, not kernel. =) (That is, the xserver-xorg-video-intel 
incarnation of the driver, not drm.ko or i915.ko.)

> > I could give a try to 2:2.10.903-1 from experimental, though...
> Yes please; it'd be trivial to identify the fix, should it run fine

I will wait for the next freeze: that and the new kernel are waiting. Should 
not take long. =(

> I do not see it mentioned in 2.6.32-9 or 2.6.32-10 changelog entries
> for linux-2.6, so probably not in 2.6.32-4-$arch kernels.

=(

> X crashing is no data loss. Data loss means you lost data you
> wrote. Crashing X means you didn't save soon enough. (See FS-related
> bugs, those are usually data loss. Or broken DB writes.)

Bash histories will get lost. Likewise the OpenDX view angles. The latter 
could probably be saved by vigorous finding of "save program settings as" from 
"file" menu, selecting a file and clicking "ok", but that would be extremely 
annoying and slow: some of the crashes have happened while rotating an 
"object", so there is not much choice of saving while "going around the 
corners" of something interactively. If you get what I mean.

But in the sense of data written to disc being lost, I did lose my kmail 
settings last time. They certainly were on disc, which is proven by the fact 
that I restored them from backups successfully. I cannot tell what caused 
this, though: Alt-SysRq-U, Alt-SysRq-S and Alt-SysRq-B is usually quite safe 
way of rebooting (especially when nothing else works except that and tearing 
away the battery). Is it data loss yet? I doubt the existence of backup and 
successful restore disqualifies a data loss. =) 

Cheers,
Juha

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