Re: [decision] new patch management system in xorg-x11
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 10:54:57PM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> david_nusinow@verizon.net (David Nusinow) writes:
>
> > The modularization effort seems to be progressing,
> > but if we can move to quilt rapidly then we'll be all the better for it,
> > since that experience can be applied to the modular tree packaging when
> > it's ready.
>
> Why not move directly to packaging the modular tree? Time spent working on
> putting a monolithic x.org build in Debian seems like wasted time to me.
As Daniel said, it's nowhere near ready, and he's right that we are *way*
too far behind in getting X.Org in to Debian and available to our users. If
the modular tree was anywhere near a point where I could start packaging it
(rather than doing the actual work of modularization, which I'm not
comfortable doing yet) I'd be gunning for that. The packaging work for the
monolithic tree is largely done, so it's less time wasted than the full
re-packaging (which we can do at our leisure now).
> Helping drive completion of the work to make packaging the modular tree
> possible is the sort of stuff we're collectively pretty good at, and it'd be
> great to put Debian in a "leadership" position in the larger X community.
>
> Thoughts?
I would love to make us less conservative in the larger X community. Having
Josh and Daniel working both with upstream and here will go a long way. You
can blame the delays with X.Org entirely on me, since I'm stumbling around
like an idiot, trying to learn the ropes. The packaging audit was as much a
political move to make everyone happy as it was a chance for me to learn
more about what I'm going to be maintaining. Daniel and Branden have both
been enormously helpful in that. I share Daniel's goal to have a unified
set of X packages for Debian and Ubuntu (and, for that matter, all other
Debian-derived distros) but I want to put in the work so we can catch up
now before pushing ahead.
I want for Debian's X packages to do in etch what the installer did in
sarge: take us from something people hate to something they love.
- David Nusinow
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