Re: Bug#181632: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#181632: xserver-xfree86: could not open default font 'fixed')
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:09:33AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:18:27PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton scrawled:
> > i _did_ know of dselect and don't like it, it is _way_ too
> > confusing and terse: keystrokes are invisible and it is
> > impossible to find out what they are.
>
> Every time you start dselect and go to the select packages section, it
> tells you this. Every time.
yeah, i know: as i don't use dselect that often i forget them even
in the short amount of time between the telling and the
> > is there a search option like apt-cache search?
>
> Use the '/' key.
ah, good to hear: only point being that that's a unix/vi/sed/perl
convention that is only known to unix/vi/sed/perl users :)
> > where there is a complete lack of comprehension and appreciation
> > for the simple fact that it is NOT POSSIBLE to obtain ANY
> > hints as to the relationship between A and X by trying to
> > do Y, and Y failing to resolve A.
>
> apt-cache show xserver-xfree86 | egrep ^Recommends:
thanks: one to remember for the future.
> > can you appreciate that there must be something wrong,
> > here, if someone who has been using debian for years
> > gets into difficulties due to lack of information?
>
> As I'm not a Developer per se, I'll claim the 5th on this one. ;)
:)
> > imagine then how difficult it must be for someone who is
> > new to debian, like my brother dan, to recover from quite
> > simple mistakes.
>
> He'd probably be using dselect, or aptitude.
yeh, but dselect _broke_.
i think in the end i had to tell dan to use dpkg -i --force-depends
gnome back on again and subsequently it was possible to recover
from the error state in which even apt-get -f install wouldn't
do the job.
> > (dan asked dselect to use gnome, then removed gnome, and
> > then needed to upgrade an independent package: for _some_
> > as yet unidentified reason the error about dselect wanting
> > to use gnome caused dselect, and apt, to not be able to
> > proceed on the other removes-and-installs).
>
> You probably should be consistent with the tools you use to manage your
> packages.
>
> :) d
axe. or large hammer. no, maybe a candlestick.
l.
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