On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 10:12:27AM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > Why don't you just tell that XF4 will recognize > etc/X11/XF86Config-4 before etc/X11/XF86Config ? it would have informed me of > my error in far less words. But it would not have reinforced the desirable behavior of Reading The F'ing Manual. > > How about learning to distinguish between servers and clients? > > Because you maintain a package that is composed of the server, some clients > and the lib, and all get installed at the same time upstream ? Gosh, that's an excellent reason. Because distinct components are shipped together, they should be regarded as indistinguishable. > I do know how the Xfree system works, and know the difference between the > client and the server and the lib, maybe i am not as familiar as yourself with > all the small details. I don't have a command of many small details at all. I have a competent grasp of some very basic fundamentals. > That said, it is strange to me that you accuse me of acuusing you of being > incompetent, while you are accusing me of the exact same thing. I don't accuse you of any such thing; I think your words speak for themselves. > But then i know that since my attempt to get a working xfree package for ppc > in january 99, you don't like me ... Despite your best efforts to argue with me instead of contributing meaninfully, we have had working XFree86 .debs for PowerPC for quite a while. > Ok, but upstream needs to handle more legacy stuff than we, don't they ? I don't think this is the case, or even obvious one way or the other. Let's worry about the existing, concrete problems rather than hypotheticals. > Well, i inform you of what i noticed when i did compile XF4 from upstream > source, but you tell me it is uninterresting. Compiling your own XFree86 binaries is no substitute for testing the packages I have put together. > And you don't asked me to test your XF4 debian packages, you don't want to, > you don't even informed me that they existed, how can you expect that kind of > report from me ? I made an announcement to the debian-x mailing list. You have a recurring theme in your career as a Debian developer of expecting people to bring things to your attention. Our mailing lists are opt-in resources. You want to know about it, you've got to sign up. > That said, you do know that lot of stuff is configured in the config/cf files, No, really? In 2.5 years of packaging XFree86 somehow this fundamental issue escaped my attention[1]. > isn't it, are you aware of the _don't install outside of $ProjectRoot_ flag > for example ? I was aware of it, and we don't want it set. We *want* things in /etc/X11. > Ok, i will give more precise in my reports in the future, and i hope that you > will be less agressive, insulting and arrogant in your replies. If you don't succeed in the former, I doubt I will succeed in the latter. I do expect you to, for instance, read the manpages from time to time. > Not that you don't know how, as shown in your recent smooth and honeyy > report about the lucidux fonts on the xfree mailing list. I'm courteous to people deserving of courtesy. That is the default state with which I regard unknown people. But I don't forget you simply because you refrain from pestering me for a few weeks. > That said, why don't you just ship them in non-free ? I feel no compulsion to support non-free software with my unpaid volunteer effort. (Nor with my paid labor at Progeny, which is a Free Software company. If imurdock asks me to do so I will, but I don't think he will. I have already brought the non-free fonts to his attention.) > I know you don't like non-free, but that is what non-free is for, and > would stop Richard Wackerbart's argument immediately. We probably shouldn't discuss the contents of a private mailing list (xfree86-devel) on public ones. -- G. Branden Robinson | A celibate clergy is an especially good Debian GNU/Linux | idea, because it tends to suppress any branden@debian.org | hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Carl Sagan
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