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Re: donations and paypal


Le 16/11/2014 15:23, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> (resending to -www@, #681501 is now archived)

Resending to project, and setting follow-up-to accordingly: this is
about the public image of the project, it’s not limited to the point of
view and opinions of the people currently behind the website IMHO.

> I was asked to look into the question of whether (and how) we should
> list Paypal on https://www.debian.org/donations.
> I've gone through various discussions about Paypal, including the one on
> debconf-team
> (http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20141010.131258.9c56bd7d.en.html).
> I agree that Paypal is far from a perfect service, for several reasons.
> We should clearly continue to offer alternative options for donations.
> However, I don't think that the known problems with Paypal are bad
> enough to surpass the the benefits of accepting donations via Paypal.
> Also, TTBOMK, the problems with Paypal are unrelated to Debian's main
> goals: for example, it doesn't require the use of proprietary software
> (even javascript). Paypal has also been used successfully already by
> Debian, e.g. for the OPW fundraising efforts.
> So I think that Paypal should be listed similarly to other donations:
> - not hidden in an 'other' section but listed directly similarly to Click
>   & Pledge;
> - provided with a form, not just a link, if auditors decide it's
>   suitable and useful;
> - if auditors decide it is useful, listed at the top of the page for
>   donations in Euros, if we can't find a better alternative.
> Of course, as a good practice, Paypal should not be used for long-term
> storage of Debian funds. This would limit problems in case of freeze
> of our accounts.
> If one can find a good, factual document that explains the various
> concerns about Paypal, it could be mentioned (in a footnote, for
> example). There's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism, but
> it's mostly focused on the problem of automated freezings of accounts.
> However, it should be mentioned as an informational message that some
> people have expressed concerns about Paypal, not as a message that
> Debian discourages the use of Paypal.
> As I know that some members of the www team have strong opinions about
> this topic, I'd like to clarify that I am not asking them to implement
> those changes themselves.  However, I am asking them to not reject a
> suitable patch, and to not revert a change that would implement this.
> Thanks,
> Lucas



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