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Thanks for new web page (Re: proposed banner for homepage, release squeeze.)


I am very happy to see new Debian web page design.  It is a good balance
of graphics with good amount of "information and links".  

My concern of aesthetic consistency is nicely addressed.  Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 02:40:40PM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> I think the aesthetic sense of highly technical people is very
> interesting. There does seem to be a consistent aversion to highly
> graphical, consumer oriented sites (ie. ubuntu.com,
> fedoraproject.org). I'm curious, how do sites like Ubuntu and Fedora
> make you "feel"? What does the highly polished interface suggest
> that makes it feel negative?

There is no single good web page design for a type of people.  It all
depends on what is expected from the target audience for that resource.

For me, sites like Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com and Fedora looks nice on
eyes when I visit them but their main home page requires too much clicks
to get to the real content of information.   Since I am not active
contributor, that is fine since I am a consumer.

If I need to book mark page for contributing to it, I will do so with
pages like http://www.ubuntu.com/community etc.

> I'm technical myself and could take a guess but I would be very
> interested to hear it in your own words.

For financial news paper, we want textual information on market.  For
tabloid sports paper, we want big fonts with nice pictures :-)  I think
web pages are just like these.

We want people to install Debian.  So having "Download" link at very
visible place like the new web site is *MUST* and great.  It is
important to have clean professional and consistent look, so people
should feel comfortable installing Debian with trust.  Since Debian is a
volunteer work which should invite people to contribute to it, it should
have easy access to these resources too.  Concise NEWS and Security ...
in homepage is good idea considering main audiences.

> Thanks,
> Ean

Thanks again to web team addressing all my concerns below.

> On 01/30/2011 11:14 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 03:56:10AM -0200, Valessio S Brito wrote:
> >>I create a proposal banner release squeeze, initial page:
> >>http://valessiobrito.info/tmp/webshot.jpg
> >>
> >>criticisms or suggestions?
> >
> >Can we move this big picture out of this current location?  In small
> >screen browser, it blocks significant page space.
> >
> >I see unused space on right top part.  Why not move there or to the
> >bottom of page.
> >
> >As for page style:
> >   http://www.ubuntu.com/
> >   http://fedoraproject.org/
> >I think these have too much graphics...  we should not imitate.
> >  http://www.freebsd.org/
> >  http://www.centos.org/
> >These have minimum graphics and looks good.
> >
> >>Other smaller version or source, here:
> >>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/SpaceFun#BannerAnnounce
> >
> >Can you think of using something like "Installer" one at right top?
> >Problem may be conflict with official logos.  So aesthetically,
> >challenging.
> >(Reorganizing text by using new stylesheet may be also needed.)
> >
> >>Also set up a short url: http://deb.li/get ->  http://get.debian.net
> >>I change the redirect if needed ".org"
> >
> >Why use redirected URL? It makes extra time to connect etc.
> >
> >>Other proposal is update images on get.debian.net:
> >>http://valessiobrito.info/tmp/webshot2.jpg

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