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Re: no l10n-japanese list ? (was: Bug#509477: www.debian.org: Misplaced Japanese news)

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:26:17AM +0900, Noritada Kobayashi wrote:
> 2008/12/23 Simon Paillard <simon.paillard@resel.enst-bretagne.fr>:
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:46:32AM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:52:57 +0100
> >> Simon Paillard <simon.paillard@resel.enst-bretagne.fr> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> > BTW, I find no debian-l10n-japanese, and the translation header doesn't
> >> > give the translator name ...
> > [...]
> > What is the obstacle to use a list hosted by Debian ?
> Actually, debian.org has debian-japanese mailing list[1], and
> translation update requests as well as users' questions about Japanese
> are posted there in English.  Should it be
> divided into debian-user-japanese and debian-l10n-japanese?
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-japanese/
> In fact, most of Japanese users use Debian JP's debian-users list (and
> debian-{devel,doc,www} lists[2]) in Japanese.  Only some developers,
> translators, and
> non-native Japanese users uses debian-japanese.  I think this condition makes
> Japanese users less interested in English lists on debian.org and is
> an "obstacle"... :-(
> [2] http://lists.debian.or.jp/

Lists on debian.org are not necessarily in english, for example in
french :
debian-l10n-french for localization
debian-devel-french for french developpers
debian-user-french for supporting french users.

All these three list are in french, except for some interactions with
the rest of Debian.

> > That may be easier for both users / new contributors / i18n coordination
> > to use the same kind of list ?

Again, I think that would be easier for everyone to just have debian-l10n-$lang.

I know that chinese has its own mailing list hosted somewhere in google,
etc. It's very hard to know all these adresses, while it could be easy ..

To request the creation of a list http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list

Be sure I will not force anyone :) it's just I feel the need to reach
japanese localisation team and wonder why it was not so easy.

Best regards.

Simon Paillard

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