Bug#497410: packages.debian.org: please link to patch-tracking.debian.net
Hi!
* Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> [2008-10-21 19:26:13 CEST]:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 06:49:20PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > On the contrary, I rather think of packages.debian.org as the end
> > user's view and it might be confusing to have the patch-tracking linked
> > from there. But then, that might be just me and I hope I won't get
>
> I guess you meant packages.qa.debian.org in the last paragraph, right?
No, of course not. That's the PTS, and I thought it was called like
that by everyone? And ... if you would have left this paragraph in
connection with the other one I wrote:
| Same with me - I managed to get quite some of my upstream developers to
| subscribe through the PTS to some keywords, and I also see the PTS as a
| useful ressource for mainly other people interested in my packages.
| Personally, from a package maintainer's view, I don't really use it for
| my own packages, here the qa.d.o/dev.php overview is much more helpful.
... you could have seen that I mentioned the PTS in that one
explicitly. I was talking about three different parts here: First the
PTS for upstream and other interested people, the qa developer overview
for developer's overview themself, and the packages.debian.org pages for
the end users.
> I'm replying making that assumption.
Then your assumption is unfortunately wrong. Please don't assume that
I don't mean what I write (left aside language barriers), especially not
when you try to tell me that what you assume that I meant is wrong and
different from what I wrote. ;)
> Well, packages.qa.debian.org is not user oriented, it has always been
> developer oriented, no matter how you use it :)
I never used it that way. :)
> This heritage comes from, if you want to see that way actually, the
> fact that its being source package oriented, while in general users
> know nothing about source packages. You know, from the PTS you don't
> even have package descriptions (given that source packages don't have
> them), how can it possibly be user oriented?
See above, never meant that, and not even wrote that. :)
> Hence, having patches linked from there is something we really want.
Exactly my words, the PTS is absolutely the proper place for it. In the
qa/developer.php page on the contrary I don't see much place for it (but
that propably would be another cookie thing to click off if one really
wants it - but then, the developers hopefully know already what they
patched), and in the packages.d.o pages for the users they aren't really
needed neither.
So we are absolutely on the same side here. :)
Rhonda
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