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Re: Debian Wiki: License & Helping with transition



On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:13:52 +0200
Franklin PIAT <fpiat@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 18:34 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
> > On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:02:43 +0200
> > Franklin PIAT <fpiat@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > So to make it short : You can create a "book" on our wiki, with a
> > > specific license. Also, you are welcome to review the page [3] and
> > > [4].
> > 
> > Is there anyway to make sub-pages also automatically have the
> > appropriate copyright? It's going to be a pain if a user starts a
> > new page and I have to contact a page creator each time a new page
> > is created because the wiki has no copyright.
> 
> Short answer no, but from my experience, users rarely create pages in
> such projects.

I guess I should clarify.  I don't expect full-blown manual pages, just
recipes and hints and tips and that sort of thing.

> Your parent parent page should contain some instructions on how to
> contribute to that documentation.
> 
> Typically, you should have a page that contains the license, then
> include that page in subpages, with :
> [[Include(MyPageName/Copyright)]].

Ah, I didn't know about that.

> Do not expect users to write a manual, it just doesn't work. If you
> want someone to write a manual, you will have to write it yourself.
> (Contributors write a few lines in a page, but they don't *build* a
> structured text, like a manual or a book).

Ah, well that I expected.  What I want is a place for things like how
to get this piece of hardware working and the like, as happens on the
Ubuntu wiki by non-devs.

The actual manual will be written by me, I'm just hoping that there
will be contributions that are useful other than my own (maybe even by
devs once it's well underway), since I probably won't think of
everything and it would speed things up if other people contributed.
And of course rewording for clarity and correctness and that sort of
thing when I make errors (in fact that is probably the single biggest
things I actually am thinking is likely, and am hoping will happen).

Most of what goes in the manual will not be specific to my project
although some of the desktop stuff will be XFCE-specific (and I'm
hoping someone else will do Gnome and KDE bits so the manual becomes a
point of reference for most end-users).  

The objective is to move things from the wiki to other pages, the wiki
is just a convenient places for collaborative editing.  I hope.  Unless
I'd be better advised to just write docbook to start, and get patches
(but again, I'm hoping there will be edits from non-dev users too).

Regards,

Daniel

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