Bug#468765: closed by Holger Levsen <firstname.lastname@example.org> (Re: Bug#468765: Should the Debian project state it is proud of oldstable security support?)
Le March 20, 2008 05:07:52 am Raphael Hertzog, vous avez écrit :
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> > Hi Holger,
> > did you intend to close #468765? If yes, please clarify what you meant.
> > If not, please reopen.
> Stop bothering us with your stupid request. We are all proud of what we do
> within Debian
Of course, we're proud of our work. You could even say that many are proud of
This does not mean that we're proud of everything we did for Debian, like that
reply to a flame you sent to quickly, or that buggy bit of code you wrote
while you should have been sleeping.
And it doesn't mean that anyone is proud of all aspects of Debian. We're proud
of the package count and of main being over 99% free. But nobody's proud of
the delays in releases. And few people are proud of aspects where Debian is
> and it doesn't hurt to say it.
So it does hurt to say it. I wouldn't contribute to Debian if release notes
stated that 5.0 makes Mac OS and Windows systems useless. The project needs
to be honest and humble, and not to stop efforts when it's happy of Debian
being as good as the average Linux distribution (we'd have stopped long ago).
> The day where you will be part of the security team, you will have your
> word to say in the drafting of the announce.
I'm not trying to be part of the security team nor to have a word to say in
the drafting of the announce. I just want the announcement to be fixed
(particularly for future announcements).
> Until then, please stop
> wasting our time.
You'd waste less time being less arrogant.