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Re: You lost a possible Debbian fan.



On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 12:43:19AM -0400, Jacob Gonzalez wrote:
> So many files for download but don't know wich one to pick

If you read manual you will know what should be downloaded. 
 
>  Index of /debian-cd/torrents
> 
> Icon  Name <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/?C=N;O=D>          
> Last modified <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/?C=M;O=A>      
> Size <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/?C=S;O=A>  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [DIR] Parent Directory <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/>               
> -   [DIR] 3.0_r5/ <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/3.0_r5/>    
> 19-Apr-2005 08:24    -   <---- r5=release 5??? WTF... Does this mean is 
> current?
> [DIR] current/ <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/current/>      
> 19-Apr-2005 08:24    -   <---- But wait this says current???? WTF!!!!
> 
> Which one I fucking pick if both look current.  Why not wirte comments 
> for noobs like me.

Does it make you more happy to use swearwords?
Current is just a symlink pointing at last release which is r5 in that
case.
 
> Then I click on i386 and I get this:
> 
>  Index of /debian-cd/torrents/3.0_r5/i386
> 
> 19-Apr-2005 08:29  884   [   ] debian-30r5-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent 
> <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/3.0_r5/i386/debian-30r5-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent>       19-Apr-2005 08:13   23K  <--- What is the differece between this?
> [   ] debian-30r5-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso.torrent 
> <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/3.0_r5/i386/debian-30r5-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso.torrent> 19-Apr-2005 08:14   25K  <--- and this? One says NONUS and the other don'tWTF? (no fucking explanation)

How nice that you've just read FAQ.
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#nonus

> [   ] debian-update-3.0r5-i386-1.iso.torrent 
> <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/3.0_r5/i386/debian-update-3.0r5-i386-1.iso.torrent>      19-Apr-2005 08:15   25K  <---Update?  Why the fuck they have updates separetly?
> [   ] debian-update-3.0r5-i386-2.iso.torrent 
> <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/torrents/3.0_r5/i386/debian-update-3.0r5-i386-2.iso.torrent>      19-Apr-2005 08:15   18K <----Again WTF is this

Let's see... maybe someone already used r4 version and wants to download
only update? No... can't be.
 
> No fucking expanation...

There are lot of explanations but not around torrent files. Sorry, we
assume that our users read manuals.

> They try to make Debian user friendly to atract new people to Linux but 
> how the hell they going to acomplish this if noobs like me get stuck in 
> the download section?.  Do you think we want to waste time reading 
> manuals for something so stupid like this.  I don't mind reading manuals 
> but not for some dumb shit like this. It should be simple like download 
> this and this (with comments underneith or some kind, guide text or 
> something that explain specificly wtf  I'm downloading... but right 
> there next to the link and not somewere else in the website or 
> manuals.)  Fix it and let me know... then I'll try Debian

All in all you should try sarge distribution and not woody.
Please try http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

regards
fEnIo
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