Re: phonetic transcription of debian?
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:41:56AM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 01:38 -0500, Aaron M Dulles-Coelho wrote:
> > As a linguist, I must ask about the phonetic transcription of /debian/
> > found at the end of http://www.debian.org/intro/about. The second
> > phoneme indicated signals to me an 'e' sound made such as in made, fade,
> > raid, jade, etc. However the 'e' sound in Debra sounds to me as fred,
> > dead, red, instead (second syllable), bed.
> >
> > Is Ian Murdock or his wife of a region where Debra would be pronounced
> > as in the first set of words, or in the second?
>
> As a non-native english speaker, I'm confused. I can't see how words
Since I'm a non-native english speaker as well I cannot fix it.
> like "made", "fade" or "raid" would include an "e" sound. Maybe I'm
> misunderstanding where the "e" sound is or what it sounds like in these
> cases. To me, the letter e at the end of "made" is silent. I'm thinking
> the other alternative is that the "e" sound in these words refer to the
> letters a or ai. (mAde, fAde, rAId)
Correct, he refers to the second character of dEbian.
(Since the German E is pronounced similar to A in mAde, fAde, I was not
confused.)
> And I always thought people had problems with debIAN (deb-ii-n or
> deb-ai-n)... :)
I found the following mail in my queue which is still not processed:
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From: Andrew Lee <andrew@linux.org.tw>
Subject: Re: Typo
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:11:20 +0800 (CST)
To: "Garvey, Patrick D" <patrick.d.garvey@boeing.com>
Cc: debian-doc@lists.debian.org
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Garvey, Patrick D wrote:
> On http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-detailed.en.html
> In "4.5.2 October 2000: Implementation of Package Pools"
> packackge
Jens: (this typo is now fixed)
And I also found the 1.2 Pronouncing Debian:
The official pronounciation of Debian is 'deb ee n'. The name comes from
the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra.
It's different on http://www.debian.org/intro/about, please look the
bottom of the page:
Since many people have asked, Debian is pronounced /'de.bi.?@n/. It
comes from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife,
Debra.
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Hint: CVS Log contains:
Applied patch from Alexander Winston <alexander.winston@comcast.net>,
adding IPA annotation to the pronounciation guide.
$ cvs diff -r 1.55 -r 1.56 english/intro/about.wml
Index: english/intro/about.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/about.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.55
retrieving revision 1.56
diff -u -r1.55 -r1.56
--- english/intro/about.wml 27 May 2003 22:47:42 -0000 1.55
+++ english/intro/about.wml 13 Apr 2004 15:34:25 -0000 1.56
@@ -227,5 +227,6 @@
community of developers and users. See
<A HREF="$(DOC)/manuals/project-history/">the detailed history</A>.
-<P>Since many people have asked, Debian is pronounced 'deb ee n'. It comes
-from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra.
+<P>Since many people have asked, Debian is pronounced /ˈde.bi.ən/. It
+comes from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife,
+Debra.
Jens
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