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RE: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian



Thanks for responding.

[you said]:
Why do you feel you should index the entire bugs site yourself? If
people wish to search for bugs in debian, there are specialised search
engines for that. 

[kaushal]: Search engines have pretty much become gateways for people
looking for anything. So people come to our site and look for bugs in
debian say, then we should be able to direct people to your site
content; this broadens your reach effectively, since people could be
searching on search engines right now and not finding anything from your
site. Of course as you said, they can come to your site and look for
stuff, but why shut out the broader option of reaching your site via
search engines.

Thanks for your comments.

Regards,
Kaushal

-----Original Message-----
From: MJ Ray [mailto:mjr@dsl.pipex.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:32 PM
To: Kaushal Kurapati
Cc: debian-www@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Ask Jeeves Crawler access to Debian

On 2004-06-18 15:09:30 +0100 Kaushal Kurapati <KKurapati@askjeeves.com>
wrote:

> On bugs.debian.org, we notice that there is a "disallow" directive in 
> your robots.txt that blocks our crawler from accessing pages on your 
> site.

I cannot speak for Debian, but I suspect this is because generating the
html version of the bugs site needs more CPU power than they are willing
to give search engines for free. Maybe if you were to make some suitably
large donation to cover the cost of adding that power, people would
reconsider.

> [...] Our goal is to provide the most relevant content to web 
> searchers and Debian.org being a major open source/linux web site, we 
> are very interested in having access to the relevant content on your 
> site.

Why do you feel you should index the entire bugs site yourself? If
people wish to search for bugs in debian, there are specialised search
engines for that. Also, you seem to already index lists.debian.org,
which should contain nearly all the useful content on bugs.debian.org
AIUI.

By the way, have you read the current site? It says: "Debian is a free
operating system (OS)". There is a link there that explains what "free"
is, and "open source" is not an exact synonym. Debian is also developing
OSes around other kernels than Linux.


Meanwhile, I am very interested in having access to the Ask Jeeves site.
However, parts of the site have basic accessibility errors, such as
setting text colours and not setting background colours.

One of your legal notices appears unreasonable. It says "You agree not
to display or use the Ask Jeeves Marks in any manner without Ask Jeeves'
prior written permission." Why do you claim that I have agreed not to
use your trademark in any manner, even though it is permitted by the UK
Trade Marks Act 1994?

I would greatly appreciate your help in these matters.

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