http://www.debian.org/ is self-controdictory :-) It says "The latest stable release of Debian is 3.0r1" later it says [21 Nov 2003] Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 updated (r2) Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 Icq: 32550367