organization of Debian's machines
Part of this will be a repeat for most of you, but Bruce asked that
this also be sent to Guy Maor and Ian Jackson. I have added a small
bit to the end.
> We need to come up with a comprehensive plan for the utilization of the
> Debian machines and the (network) distribution of all aspects of Debian.
>
> There are three somewhat distinct aspects of Debian:
> listservers - This can easily be seperated from the rest. I think there
> is currently a plan to put this on its own machine.
> ftp archive - on a machine that developers can upload to and log on to.
> There should not be much other activity on this machine as the scripts
> to keep the distribution up to date (dinstall and lintian) have priority.
> web pages - while it isn't necessary that the web pages be on the same
> machine as the main ftp archive, the current procedure for updating
> the bug lists, list archives and the generation of some of the other
> web pages are tied to the ftp archive so unless it becomes necessary
> to move them, it is easier to let them be.
>
> Where the current confusion lies is the mirroring of the ftp archive and
> web pages. Currently many mirrors mirror directly from master. Since we need
> good access to master, it would be a good idea to move as much of this net
> load away from master as possible.
> debian.crosslink.net is the site that is suggested that people mirror from.
>
> What I would like to see is for us to get a machine with good net access that
> has a mirror of both the ftp and web and does not allow anon ftp access.
> Its only purpose would be to act as a site for mirrors to mirror from.
> Anyone wishing to mirror from this site would be given the same account
> and password, e.g. user=debian and passwd=mirror. The idea is not total security;
> simply to minimize the number of people using this site for updating their system.
> Only a few sites would mirror master: ftp.debian.org, www.debian.org,
> debian.crosslink.net (aka www.us.debian.org) and, possibly, a European ftp
> and web site.
>
Tim's site should be added as his mirror of Incoming is widely used.
> The only machines debian currently controls are master.debian.org and va.debian.org
> (aka www.debian.org). We do not control ftp.debian.org and it has been quite
> stable so there is no reason to change this in the near future. It would be
> best if we controlled the proposed mirror.debian.org ourselves.
>
> What do people think of this?
>
This isn't anything earth shattering. Except for a better distribution system
for mirrors, this is pretty much what we have right now. I just thought it would
be a good idea if we all agreed on where we should be going.
Since we don't have another machine, let alone one with good net connection
on a different network from our admin machines, we should probably set up
mirror.debian.org to point to debian.crosslink.net for now. I haven't tried
communicating with Mike Shields about this as he hasn't responded
to the last few mails I sent. I'm afraid I may have upset him with my
frustration with their mirroring problems in the fall. The site seems to
have been up to date the last few weeks, but I'd like to hear a statement from
him saying that the problems have been fixed.
Even if crosslink is keeping up to date, we should improve the distribution
system.
- Jay
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