Re: Some thoughts regarding DW
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Hi, Hanna, everyone
I have been keeping quiet on this topic so far, because I've been a
little worried that my contribution to it would be perhaps coming from a
slightly unfair, or too harsh standpoint, but after this email from
Hanna I had to jump in:
on 15/8/05 10:58 AM Hanna M. Wallach said the following:
| To summarise: Debian Women is about integration; let's not forget it.
I absolutely agree, one hundred million percent.
I think d-w has done a GREAT job making debian a better place, and
everyone involved should feel extremely pleased with themselves.
I also think that the +ve changes that d-w has made are generally not
specific to WOMEN, d-w has made debian a much better place to be for
everyone.
But! I worry that the point has been missed, as Hanna said. d-w (and
again, this is MHO, which probably doesn't stand for much as I'm
generally a lurker) should be about people getting involved with debian,
and perhaps a stepping stone for that ultimate goal of integration. Not
to be place where people are forever sheltered.
I'm not trying to cite any particular examples, I don't have any ready
to mind, but the overall atmosphere seems slightly worrying to me. I
don't want d-w to be a seperatist place. In particular,
| I (and many others) believe that making
| things easier for women, in the sense of lowering standards is
| entirely unconstructive and detrimental.
+1 hundred million here too. I would hate to think that d-w creates an
atmosphere that encourages people to lower the standard for us lowly
women. That seems undeniably counter productive.
I hope this doesn't offend anyone or sound harsh or uncaring, but I had
to add my +1 to Hanna's point.
- - Penny
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