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Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

On 09/08/2005, at 7:15 AM, Erinn Clark wrote:

Could you explain what you meant in this comment:

"It's the classic, 'Are we going to talk about the relationship again?'" Cooper said in response to an audience question, prompting laughter and applause. "That's what Debian Women is about -- can we figure out a way
to talk?"

It's not really clear to me what that means and I'm not sure that the
last bit is actually consistent with DW's goals, so any clarification
would be much appreciated.

I don't know, Erinn... I would say that a comment like that touched an ongoing embarrassment with and reluctance to discuss gender issues, where there is so much explosive material, and where so many people have sore spots or are unsure of their views. It's not a linear matter: it's full of lateral possibilities, not something that can be controlled by a procedure or technical structure. Who knows what will happen?

You'd probably find less discomfort with this topic in a group of psychology students, but you'd still get the laugh. ;)

We do need to find a way to talk about these things: a way where people feel safe to say what they think, and can find ways to say it that mean others are safe, too. We have some very heavy issues to resolve, and it's not easy. How many people here will leave the washing-up until the next day, or put off talking about something uncomfortable with another human being?

We have a lot of washing-up to do. ;)

from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)

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