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Re: No goals, selective memory, be nice, red nose day

On 2004-08-23 14:52:44 +0100 Jenn Vesperman <jenn@anthill.echidna.id.au> wrote:

Given that some places are effectively closed to women who lack the
desire to wade through guff and nonsense [...]

There are places effectively closed to men who lack stamina to wade through dross too. This is not a men/women issue at all.

If you wish to dispute the presence of gender-biased noise, I can
provide an example of same simply by writing anything on slashdot [...]

slashdot is an example of many worst cases and not particularly illuminating about debian or GNU/Linux in general.

Given that you have declared that you are using an extreme definition of
sexism? Quite possibly.

I don't think defining "sexism" as "discriminatory on the basis of sex" is very extreme at all. In fact, I think it's probably close to the median. By the way, I suspect that trying to order definitions involves so much of the observer's opinion that any such measurement curve will be very distorted by the prior belief curve...

Your definition differs from the one in general
use in moderate feminist circles [...]

I'm not in "moderate feminist circles" and I don't have a copy of their dictionary. As far as I can tell, debian is not a moderate feminist group either.

We probably should have done a definition of terms much sooner.

Possibly, but aims are more important. We need to be careful to avoid making another newspeak if the group is to be accessible. (I'm not completely opposed to making up entirely new words, as lawyerbomb fans will know.)

MJR/slef    My Opinion Only and not of any group I know

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