Re: Debian, lists and discrimination
[There was another reply to debian-project.]
On 2004-08-06 13:44:51 +0100 Pascal Hakim <pasc@debian.org> wrote:
[...] should we allow the project to discriminate
against men?
Where does it discriminate against men? [...]
The description is "Discussion and collaboration involving women in
Debian". Discussion and collaboration involving only men seems
forbidden from that list. Nearly all posts seem to be either:
1. discussions for which there are/should be other lists *but* are on
debian-women because they involve women, in this way working against
equality in the wider project; and
2. discussion of "positive discrimination" for women in the debian
project.
In my limited experience, sexism and other discrimination seems to run
unchecked on the debian-women list. While reading up on the survey I
was sent, I noticed someone "guess" that a poster of disliked views is
a "white middle class christian male" in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2004/07/msg00223.html - I find it
offensive that someone makes unsupported links between krooger's views
and a background similar to mine (white middle-class christened male,
although I don't think those labels say much about my beliefs) yet
goes unchallenged. Why did no-one challenge that racist, classist,
religionist and sexist post to debian-women?
Build concensus on the list in question, then file a bug on the lists
package, or get a listmaster to agree with you.
OK, assuming that any agreeable listmaster will tell me, I'll work on
the other option. I restore the cc to debian-women and ask that
further discussion is directed there and cc'd to me. Please remove
listmaster and debian-project from discussion of the below:
Do you agree that type 1 posts above should be directed to existing
lists and type 2 are discrimination? What non-discriminatory action do
you wish to take that would not be possible as debian-equality or
debian-welcome?
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