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Re: Current Wiki content migration



Hi,

On 21 Jul 2025 at 08:27:54, Maytham Alsudany wrote:
> 21 July 2025 3:52:31 am Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>:
> > Thank you for getting things moving!
> >
> >> * Figure out a transition plan for the old wiki.
> >
> > This needs to be discussed and agreed early.
> >
> > I have a lot of sympathy with the arguments for starting clean slate, BUT, I think we would seriously disrespect the folks who have poured a huge amount of effort into some of the content on the current site, so I feel we need to migrate it.
> 
> The worst case scenario is that the MoinMoin wiki content would be
> archived and read-only, so it's not like all is lost. Additionally,
> there was a point on the old wiki license discussion page that, since
> there's no explicit license, it might not even be legal to transfer
> (or backup) the wiki content to another host. IANAL though.
> 
> I'm slowly going to try and migrate content one page at a time through
> a mix of rewriting pages entirely to avoid copyright infringement and
> asking some contributors to relicense their contributions. I don't
> know how far I'll get, but it's a start.

I haven't watched the DebConf BoF (I was in DebConf but not that day). I
will watch online and read the pad.

If the way to go is asking contributors to migrate existing content to a
new wiki with a new license: could we list somewhere the pages that
could be migrated? If the migration is manual (so dead links,
formatting, etc. would be fixed) I'd be very interested in helping and
migrate pages. But, for that, we would need to agree which pages can and
should be migrated (and if this is done manually).

> > Can I suggest that for this interim period we agree, and make it
> > clear, that any content added now might get blasted? In particular
> > we would need to navigate it being overwritten by an import from the
> > current wiki. Perhaps only in the Main namespace. But it would be
> > best to avoid divergence at this early point until we've got more of
> > a tangible roadmap for migration.
> 
> Maybe add a header for any pages that have been moved to the MediaWiki
> install that "this page has been migrated to wiki2025.debian.org"?

I like that.

-- 
Carles Pina i Estany
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