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Re: Candidates question: politics and Debian



Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> wrote on 19/03/2024 at 09:38:26+0100:
> Andreas Tille wrote:
>> > How would you as a DPL try to lead a community that focuses on producing a great distribution without getting divided on controversial topics?
>>
>> I'm not really sure in how far you consider the first statement relevant
>> to the question.  If your focus is on political controverses I have a
>> clear statement:  Make sure off-topic messages will be reduced to a
>> bare minimum on Debian channels (maximum is one message to invite people
>> to a non-Debian channel and mark this invitation [OT]).
>
> Limiting off-topic posts is obviously agreeable, but there's more than
> just that.

Yes. First, what is off-topic? Who decides? How do we decide when
something deemed off-topic becomes actually on-topic?

> Another facet of the question is: do you think that Debian should
> support and/or take action on "good causes" that aren't part of its
> stated mission (and that some people, including some DDs, might
> disagree on being "good")?

Anything deemed as important by members of our community could be viewed
as in our missions, since I seem to remember that our users are our
priority.

Debian doesn't live in a bubble outside of the world.

> For example (by no means an exhaustive list, feel free to add):
> - should Debian aim to reduce its carbon footprint and/or optimize
> software for that goal?

I don't see how it's up to the DPL to answer this question further than
for themselves.

I can understand that you want the candidate's opinion on this (after
all it's important for a lot of people to chose someone with whom one
shares values), but it's up to all of us to address the forementioned
point, and it seems worth reminding.

> - should Debian support and/or actively drive initiatives to increase
> diversity in Debian Developers, or in the software industry in
> general, or in the world at large?

To me it's the same as above. Also, we saw, painfully, that not caring
creates some void around the people being not careful at all. And this
voids costs us far more than not having them around.

> - should Debian take any measures (boycott, suspend or expel
> developers, refuse to consider as a host for Debconf...) against
> countries that are perceived by some as "behaving bad" -- as examples
> related to current events let me just mention Russia and Israel?

It also seems up to all of us via a GR to answer such a question.

> - (this is an issue that once hit me personally) should Debian enforce
> the use of a particular language with respect to gender issues?

For now, I think the CoC already answers this matter. If you want to
change it, then as upwards, it's once again up to us collectively to
change it.

Also, why on earth would you care whether people you've never met (and
probably never will meet) decide to transition and ask you to use a
different name/pronoun to address them?

In a whole, I think it's interesting to see people asking the DPL to
take position regarding what they see as problematic to them instead of
taking the matter in their hands and submit resolution proposals for
these points.

Some actually took the opportunity when they wanted to (eg, asking the
project to take a position regarding Stallman resuming activity at the
FSF), and got their answer (despite it being not what they expected from
it) from the members as a whole.

-- 
PEB

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