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Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"



On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 06:46:06PM +0000, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 09:28, Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 09:14:05AM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > I feel like we're getting trapped by big corp and their lobbying
> > > power, and we need to use stronger words.
> >
> > Probably in a different way. I'd rather prefer Debian to defend the DFSG,
> > including DFSG 6. If the EU were to draw a line for compulsory liability, then
> > it should not be between commercial and nonprofit, but rather between FOSS and
> > non-FOSS. For example, in my opinion "awscli" is FOSS, and the usual liability
> > disclaimer in FOSS licenses should also be valid for "awscli". This is, in my
> > understanding, a different opinion than discussed so far, right?
> 
> That would not be a good outcome. Just because a smartphone ships open
> source software, it doesn't mean its vendor should get away with not
> providing security updates after a few months, causing the phone
> owners to lose their data or worse.

That is a different case. The user of a smartphone depends on the vendor for
keeping the smarthpone safe for use during a reasonable time after purchase.
I follow you on that.


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