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Re: General resolution: Condemn Russian invasion of the Ukraine

Quoting Steve Langasek (2022-04-05 22:36:02)
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 02:39:31PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Julian Andres Klode (2022-03-31 12:31:18)
> > > Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are 
> > > the body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
> > > This is a proposal for Debian to issue a statement on an issue of 
> > > the day as given as an example, the recent invasion of Ukraine.
> > > ==== Text of GR ====
> > > The Debian project issues the following statement:
> > > The Debian project strongly condemns the invasion of Ukraine by 
> > > Russia. The Debian projects affirms that Ukrain is a souvereign 
> > > nation which includes the Donbas regions of Luhansk, as well as 
> > > Crimea, which has already been illegaly annexed by Russia.
> > No we don't - we care about our users, and our users include those 
> > who do evil.
> I think this thread has largely petered out, with many people having 
> laid out the reasons why Debian taking a public position on this is 
> not necessarily a good idea.
> But I don't think it should go unadddressed that it's quite a bizarre 
> twist to go from "our priorities are our users and Free Software" to 
> "we care about evil users".

Please note the word "include" in my sentence above.

Point is we do *not* care about our users doing evil.

Which is same as we care *equally* about users doing good and users 
doing bad: It is not for us to judge our users' deeds.

Debian rejects software licensed with the following clause:

"The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil"

> That is far different from "people who are doing evil are using 
> Debian, and therefore we should support them".

Why do you write "therefore"?

I talk about supporting our users _regardless_ of doing good or evil.

[ further distortion snipped ]

Please don't twist my words!

 - Jonas

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