Re: Lynx is a form of accessibility (was Re: Lynx is not Accessibility)
Hi Thorsten,
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 at 15:31, Thorsten Glaser <tg@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Sam Hartman dixit:
>
> > Thorsten> Alternative solutions may • have accessibility problems
> > Thorsten> (not work with lynx, for example
> >
> >Working with Lynx is not a requirement for accessibility.
>
> No, but not working with lynx is an accessibility problem.
I worked in web accessibility not too long ago, although it wasn't my
primary function.
The way you're defining accessibility isn't how mainstream
accessibility specialists would define it. And for Debian's use case,
it should be "is accomplishable by people with (disability in our
population) using free software tools", not "using lynx".
> But that’s not the only use case. Slow connections, text only,
> or even font sizes (lynx runs in a terminal where *I* choose
> that), are other use cases.
>
> Also, JavaScript thingies tend to be over-designed. There was
> this firewall solution I encountered at work where you had to
> drag-and-drop things to create and order firewall rules.
Please, a Debian developer who uses a screen reader is saying that
"works with lynx is not required to be accessible to people with
disabilities". Saying you're talking about accessibility, but then
going on to talk about aesthetics of JavaScript apps, the policy of an
IT department inside the German government, personal reasons you like
lynx, etc. This is all off topic.
Yes, some who are blind use lynx. But that doesn't mean "if it doesn't
work in lynx, that person cannot use the site".
> I’d argue having to rely on proprietary JavaScript drawing things
> is both an accessibility and a worse issue (GNU LibreJS seems to
> not have gone anywhere, plus, with it enabled you’d have just the
> same site breakage as in lynx).
How is this relevant to the discussion about a free-software voting system?
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