Le samedi 03 avril 2021 à 15:41:43+0200, Milan Zamazal a écrit : > >>>>> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> writes: > > SM> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 12:26:56PM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > >> On Friday, 2 April 2021 11:09:42 PM AEDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > >>> Thanks for arguing for my point: Communism was a beautiful > >>> theoretical > > >>> idea which was implemented by humans and therefore was a > >>> miserable fuckup in the end. > >>> > >>> I still think the concept is really interesting, but I can't see > >>> a working implementation as soon as there are humans who would > >>> want to be leaders in such regimes. > >>> > >>> I don't see a connection with free speech here, anyway. > >> > >> What a nasty disgraceful style of debating you have, Pierre. > > SM> You might disagree with him, but please stop attacking the > SM> person. It's not necessary and only lowers the tone of debate. > > Yes, please. > > >> You understood very well what I'm saying and I'm is not > >> confirming your point. Communism is a bad ideology that does not > >> work (and could not work even in theory) - that's why it should > >> be "cancelled". Free speech is a beautiful working practice but > >> it is in the way of terrible ideas and that's why they want to > >> "cancel" free speech. > > SM> And other people disagree with you on those points. Please > SM> accept that and leave it there? > > Please note that some of us who suffered from communism and got both > theoretical and practical training in marxism-leninism may be quite Theoretical, with small "reviews" from the party. Which means not theoretically accurate at all. > sensitive to claims that communism was a beautiful theoretical idea or > putting some kind of equations between communism and freedom of speech. > I had to hold off myself to not respond to those claims, which were not > helpful and the intended points could be illustrated in better ways. > > Regards, I explained in what way I compare both. You may consider it was not the best way to illustrate my point and I'm eager to take that remark, but this connection is not, /per se/, absurd. -- Pierre-Elliott Bécue GPG: 9AE0 4D98 6400 E3B6 7528 F493 0D44 2664 1949 74E2 It's far easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
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