Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Section 6.3
> -----------
>
> Replace 6.3.1 in its entirety with:
>
> 1. Resolution process.
>
> The Technical Committee uses the following process to prepare a
> resolution for vote:
>
> 1. Any member of the Technical Committee may propose a resolution.
> This creates an initial two-option ballot, the other option
> being the default option of "None of the above". The proposer
> of the resolution becomes the proposer of the ballot option.
>
> 2. Any member of the Technical Committee may propose additional
> ballot options or modify or withdraw a ballot option they
> proposed.
>
> 3. If all ballot options except the default option are withdrawn,
> the process is canceled.
>
> 4. Any member of the Technical Committee may call for a vote on the
> ballot as it currently stands. This vote begins immediately, but
> if any other member of the Technical Committee objects to
> calling for a vote before the vote completes, the vote is
> canceled and has no effect.
>
> 5. Two weeks after the original proposal the ballot is closed to
> any changes and voting starts automatically. This vote cannot be
> canceled.
>
> 6. If a vote is canceled under point 6.3.1.4 later than 13 days
> after the initial proposed resolution, the vote specified in
> point 6.3.1.5 instead starts 24 hours after the time of
> cancellation. During that 24 hour period, no one may call for a
> vote.
Can options be added or removed during that 24 hour period? I currently
fail to see how useful canceling is when it's going to start again 24
hours later without any changes.
> 7. Proposing a general resolution.
>
> When the Technical Committee proposes a general resolution or a
> ballot option in a general resolution to the project under point
> 4.2.1, it may delegate the authority to withdraw, amend, or make
> minor changes to the ballot option to one of its members. If it
> does not do so, these decisions must be made by resolution of the
> Technical Committee.
How do they delegate that? Using a resolution?
> Section A
> ---------
>
> Replace A.0 through A.4 in their entirety with:
>
> A.0. Proposal
>
> 1. The formal procedure begins when a draft resolution is proposed and
> sponsored, as required. A draft resolution must include the text of
> that resolution and a short single-line summary suitable for
> labeling the ballot choice.
I'm not sure how useful a summary is at the stage of the proposal. Depending
on the other options that might get added later, it might not be clear.
So I'm not sure a "must" there is useful.
> A.2. Withdrawing ballot options
>
> 1. The proposer of a ballot option may withdraw. If they do, new
> proposers may come forward to keep the ballot option alive, in
> which case the first person to do so becomes the new proposer and
> any others become sponsors if they aren't sponsors already. Any new
> proposer or sponsors must meet the requirements for proposing or
> sponsoring a new resolution.
>
> 2. A sponsor of a ballot option may withdraw.
>
> 3. If the withdrawal of the proposer and/or sponsors means that a
> ballot option has no proposer or not enough sponsors to meet the
> requirements for a new resolution, and 24 hours pass without this
> being remedied by another proposer and/or sponsors stepping
> forward, it is removed from the draft ballot. This does not change
> the length of the discussion period.
If they wait for more than 24 hours, I assume they need to follow A.1.2
(and so can change the length of the discussion period)?
> 4. If all ballot options except the default option are withdrawn, the
> resolution is canceled and will not be voted on.
>
> A.3. Calling for a vote
>
> 1. After the discussion period has ended, the Project Secretary will
> publish the ballot and call for a vote. The Project Secretary may
> do this immediately following the end of the discussion period and
> must do so within five days of the end of the discussion period.
Given all the options where 24 hours after the discussion period is over
things can still change, wouldn't it be better to wait at least 24 hours
before calling a vote?
The case where I think we want an immediately is for an election.
It seems that this applies everything using the Standard Resolution
Procedure, including Technical Committee votes. Is it intentional that
the Secretary will be involved in those now, while that did not happen
before?
Does a call for vote mean that people can start voting soon afterwards?
I prefer to start a vote during a period I know I can make time
available, and would be happier with a 7 day period.
> 2. The Project Secretary determines the order of ballot options. At
> their discretion they may reword the single-line summaries for
> clarity.
>
> 3. Minor changes to ballot options under point A.1.5 may not be made
> after or within 24 hours of the end of the discussion period unless
> the Project Secretary agrees the change does not alter the meaning
> of the ballot option and (if it would do so) warrants delaying the
> vote. The Project Secretary will allow 24 hours for objections
> after any such change before issuing the call for a vote.
I suggest rewording this to avoid the negative, so remove the
"not", change the "unless" to "if". The same applies to some
of the other points.
It's also unclear what the "after or within 24 hours" means.
> Strike section A.5 in its entirety.
I can you can change the "Replace A.0 through A.4 in their entirety with:"
to include A.5.
I think 4.2.1 still has: "resolution or amendment". Is that something
you want to change to "resolution or ballot options"?
The compare link on has at least:
- section §A.5
- §A.5
- section §A.5
Can you make it more consistent?
Kurt
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