Hi Sean On 2020/03/18 19:34, Sean Whitton wrote: > I don't mind clicking on a link to read the answers too much, but I > think your answers should be preserved in our mailing list archives. Here is the permalink from my answer: https://discourse.debian.net/t/dear-dpl-candidates-what-are-your-thoughts-on-discourse/75/4?u=highvoltage (since it's a test site I guess that might be invalid one day) Here's the full text: """ Like many DD’s, I have mixed feelings about Discourse. I’ve used it before in my local Wireless User Group. I don’t use it much personally, but it works really well for that community. This current (discourse.debian.net) site is obviously not the best example of an active Discourse site, so if someone is interested in what an instance that’s been used for a while looks like, here is CTWUG’s instance: https://forum.ctwug.za.net/ 2 Ubuntu replaced their Community Hub site with a Discourse instance. You can read more about that at https://popey.com/blog/posts/ubuntu-community-hub-proposal.html and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-community-hub-launched/102. Forums and sites like Discourse are often used for support. I kind of like that they explicitly don’t want to use their site for support, which I think can become a distraction from wider community issues. Their instance is at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/ I agree that the features you mention in the debian-vote thread are great. Being able to upvote comments in a Debian discussion could be very useful. Personally, when it comes to web-based forums, I tend to use them for a while and then only remember I have an account on them a few years later. They tend to be obnoxious with email notifications, so I usually disable those. For some, just using the e-mail gateway may be sufficient, another DD did some tests on the usability of its email integration and wrote a report: https://writefreely.debian.social/paddatrapper/discourse IMHO only using the e-mail interface would kind of defeat the purpose (you might as well use a mailing list then) since all the nice features that’s available are exposed in the web interface. I might have to through your question back at you and ask you, what would you want a Discourse site for Debian to be used? I’m even going to go ahead and give a partial answer, because I’m a DD so of course I have an opinion about everything. I think for things like DebConf, Discourse might be a better way to co-ordinate a lot of things. Especially since we tend to get in a small influx of new users that, for example, struggle to get an account on the Debian wiki and once they do, figure out how to use it, how to deal with edit conflicts, etc. Our wiki is also full of stale documentation. And we don’t really use talk pages on there so leaving comments or having discussion about it on there is suboptimal. Perhaps a Discourse instance might be a better alternative for wiki-like documentation, I’m not sure. We can perhaps check how it works out for Ubuntu. My point with the above is, I think you need to find something that it’s really useful for, and that it’s really good at, and drive that use case to spark interest in it. (Also, why doesn’t it have backups yet?) Finally, I don’t think you should encourage Debianites to ask questions for the DPL elections on here. Both questions and answers could go unnoticed and unread. I think it’s better to choose a future discussion and plan it ahead, rather than test it in production mid-way of a DPL election. """ -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) <jcc> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.
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