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Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE. Systemd won, sysV/OpenRC/etc fans must leave

Can't do it all myself.
Debian was created by 1000s of people.

The systemd people take over.

They then say all anti-systemd debate is trlling
or spm, and that anyone that doesn't
like systemd has to go make their own 
linux distribution by themselves,
no matter the fact that they, the systemd
people did not create debian, they just
co-opted it by targeting the decision
making positions.

It's OK for the systemd people to use others.
Anyone else has to go it alone, even if 
what they like is allready supported.

"buh buy, we won, gtfo"
Here's the door to bsd, etc.

It's like getting kicked out of your own country.
"Go create your own, we bought the politicians and
thus control the passive army"

--- dmcgarrett@optonline.net wrote:

From: Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:27:23 -0500

On 03/03/2014 07:02 PM, Arnold Bird wrote:
> I myself do not like systemd either.
> Why don't I go use some other distro
> since a vote was won on some corner
> mailing list by a grand total of
> 4 people infavor and 4 people against
> about one week ago??
> Well:
> Debian is the universal operating system.
> I shouldn't have to.
> /snip/
I should not have to forgo all the packages of debian, all my experiance 
with debian (13 years), because four people deciced I and everyone of 
the thousands of debian developers and debian users should use systemd 
and that is it. The people who make debian are not beholden to gnome, 
systemd, redhat. The people on that committie might be. The people like 
me who are opensource programmers do not have to just accept the 
decision of the systemd backers.


Two comments:
1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac 
OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is.
2. Since you are a programmer, and Linux is an open source system, why 
not modify the part that includes the undesired code
     and put back the desired code? You could then publish the revised 
version as "Good Linux" or whatever you decided to call it.

(I am not a fan of Ubuntu, just saying. . . .)


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