On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:57:13AM +0100]: > > In my opinion, the best release we ever had (that I was a part of, at > > least) was the Etch release process; shortly after Sarge had been > > released, the release managers had started to regularly update the > > project as a whole on where we were in the process, and I believe that > > worked very very well. During the whole of the Etch release process, > > there was never really a point in time where I felt I didn't know how > > far away the release still was. > > > > It feels to me as though the frequency and/or quality of updates has > > reduced somewhat since the Etch release, though I'll readily admit that > > that is just a gut feeling. At any rate, I do not feel I am as > > up-to-date as I was during the Etch release process on when the release > > is going to happen. I don't think it's going to take more than, say, > > half a year, though. > > Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your > impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care > into the release process after the massive pain it was to release > Sarge, a three-year-long pain we didn't want to suffer again? For > Lenny we lost some of that push, although the release process was > still mostly swift, with a minor slip regarding what we expected. This is quite possibly correct. > As for the reasons why we are not freezing yet... I think it is > somewhat a lack of commitment to what the Release Team says, as (too) > many people felt betrayed with the way the freeze-related > announcements were made (a topic that has already been analized > here). I don't sense it that way. There was initially a bit of disappointment among many people, indeed, but with the change of plans that was made fairly quickly, I think the trust was restored. > So, going back to the questioning of the candidates: Do you agree with > this very simplistic analysis? If so, how would you push to get the > drive and the confidence back? To get the drive back is something that the release team needs to do. I can work with them on that, if necessary, but I can't do it for them. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html
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