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Re: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 03:47:57PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> I have felt for some time that the low requirement for seconds on General
> Resolutions is something that should be fixed. Currently it needs 5
> supporters to get any idea laid before every Debian Developer to vote
> on. While this small number was a good thing at the time Debian was
> smaller, I think it is no longer the case.

Perfectly agree.

> While one could go and define another arbitary number, like 10 or 15 or
> whatever, I propose to move this to something that is dependent on the
> actual number of Developers, as defined by the secretary, and to
> increase its value from the current 5 to something higher. My personal
> goal is 2Q there, which would mean 30 supporters. If you can't find 30
> supporters, out of 1000 Developers, your idea is most probably not worth
> taking up time of everyone else.

I think this is a problem, though. Not that debating over an arbitrary 
number is a good idea, but the number of developers as used for quorum 
calculation is not a good reference, IMHO, for the sheer fact that the 
DDs actually voting make up a rather small fraction of the total.

There are some that do not take part in the discussions but vote, there 
are those who do not even follow debian-vote because they do not feel it 
is worth the effort, and those that are simply not active at all. I do 
not have the numbers right now, but IIRC we have had an average of 300 
to 400 votes in the most controversial disputes recently. In other 
words, considering the seconds requirement from the 1000-something DDs 
we count formally is fiction, when less than half of them actually
participate in the decision process.

Guilherme de S. Pastore

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