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Re: I hereby resign as secretary

The problem is you can't wave a magic wand, and fix the community.
It's a self-feeding cycle which goes on and on and on. Even if we had
a Code of Conduct for Debian, unless it was strongly enforced, its the
same problem.

Whether the ballot was valid or not was immaterial, the response to it
was clearly inappropriate. If we flamed people to hell and called for
their removal for every mistake, we won't have a single developer or
user left. Maybe its worth considering adopting a CoC for Debian, and
actually enforcing it, but that's someone for the community to decide,
should we ever get past flaming each other to get something done.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane <lionel@mamane.lu> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:57:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
>> Well, I haven't left, but I do far less with Debian now than I used
>> to.
>> It is still my preferred OS for a variety of reasons. (...)
>> I get no joy whatsoever out of the current mailing list
>> discussions. (...) We're here to make a Free operating system, dammit.
>> People that are not here to make a Free operating system shouldn't be
>> here.
>> I have considered leaving the project several times this year.  The
>> fun of being a Debian developer went away long ago.  I maintain
>> packages for my own utility now, at home and at work, and that's it.
> I do recognise in me the same symptoms as those you describe. I
> haven't really analysed much to have an opinion on whether I ascribe
> them to the same causes as you or not.
> Several of my DD friends have solved the problem by unsubscribing from
> d-devel@l.d.o, d-vote@l.d.o, etc.
> --
> Lionel
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